Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog

[scheides]

Excuse me while I laugh. I've never seen you satisfied before.

LOL, mike remember dave doesn't swing like that ;)

But yea, its true. Stock turbo is a lot of fun, but you'll always be looking ahead for more more more.

[Murlo26]

Excuse me while I laugh. I've never seen you satisfied before.

Done :)

I put 20k miles on my evo8 @420whp on the stock bottom end, and I'm planning on doing the same with my X. Still, there is a line that gets crossed, and its not obvious until you've seen the wrong side of it.

I still think there is something to blame other than the tune/power/torque man. A bad injector, a line or two coming loose (did you check the FPR line yet?), a loose coupler, etc.

Yup, I checked all the lines, they looked good...weew, thank god. Glad you moved it, i thought i was going crazy.

[mlomker]

Do you really feel that my car felt as fast.

I never rode in scheides' car. As mentioned in the 'fast car' thread, yours is the fastest car I've ever been in. Maybe one of these days one of the guys with a DSM beast will take me for a spin.

[Murlo26]

LOL, mike remember dave doesn't swing like that ;)

But yea, its true. Stock turbo is a lot of fun, but you'll always be looking ahead for more more more.

True, but talking to Ron made me realize I am not crazy. He agreed that a 380whp (that is what his X was making before he put it back to stock) X was just not nearly as fast as a 380whp 8/9.

He said they felt completely different and thought i would be happier in the 9 with my power hungry attitude.

I am still not saying I am going with anything yet, in fact just last night i convinced myself to build the X, or so i thought. Now when i woke up 180 degree switch. It is a very big decision for me, not going to happen just yet.

That is why I figured I would ask you scheides to see what you think.

[scheides]

I thought your car felt just as fast as my car with the BBK on alky, just not quite as torquey and I could tell the BCS was slowing the spool (after a shift) a bit, but that's the ecu-geek in me over-analyzing. X also needs NLTS asap. My X honestly does not feel any more heavy than my SSL Evo8, and feels just as (if not more) nimble through the corners, even on snow tires. Once I get a few more power mods done on mine, we'll do some testing & comparing sessions with a few other cars and see what's what in the real world.

There is definitely a certain rawness that the X lacks that my 8 had, but I keep thinking about all the little stuff I did to the 8 to make it what it was: rear diff bushings, properllershaft bushings, short shifter and associated bushings, front motor mount, etc etc etc. When I get all of this kind of stuff on my new car I'm praying hughes still owns his IX (we had sooo many of the same mods, such good combos) so I can fly down, take it for a spin, and re-ponder this.

[mlomker]

That is why I figured I would ask you scheides to see what you think.

Perhaps we should do a poll.

1) Fix the X.
2) Buy a IX.
3) STFU with all the waffling.

:rollinglaugh:

[turbotalon1g]

You guys are getting messed up by trying to be quick as someone else. Build your car slowly and enjoy it, once you get used to it, you will want more its natural.

Obviously you know you want it to be decently quick but take your time and enjoy it.

[slowbubblecar]

#3 :)

[Kracka]

#3, I love waffles!

[Murlo26]

I thought your car felt just as fast as my car with the BBK on alky, just not quite as torquey and I could tell the BCS was slowing the spool (after a shift) a bit, but that's the ecu-geek in me over-analyzing. X also needs NLTS asap. My X honestly does not feel any more heavy than my SSL Evo8, and feels just as (if not more) nimble through the corners, even on snow tires. Once I get a few more power mods done on mine, we'll do some testing & comparing sessions with a few other cars and see what's what in the real world.

There is definitely a certain rawness that the X lacks that my 8 had, but I keep thinking about all the little stuff I did to the 8 to make it what it was: rear diff bushings, properllershaft bushings, short shifter and associated bushings, front motor mount, etc etc etc. When I get all of this kind of stuff on my new car I'm praying hughes still owns his IX (we had sooo many of the same mods, such good combos) so I can fly down, take it for a spin, and re-ponder this.

Honestly that day my X wasn't doing the in between shift lag nearly as bad as it normally was but maybe i should just go with a MBC until NLTS comes.

It has been so long since I had my 8 that I can't remember, but from what I do remember, the 8 felt quicker, probably the torque, but it just had a different feel to it. I agree the X feels way better turning, but if you look at the power band of say Jim's FPred car vs. mine, my car spools sooner by quite a bit, so low end is better, but his midrange somehow passes mine up and then the x repasses at the top. So this is probably why the 8/9's feel faster, because on the street that latter spool is actually what you see on the street since most people downshift so it's more in the powerband.

Ron's opinion and observations still are weighing heavily on me right now. I know I will always want more, its the nature of the game, but I am so nervous that I will build the motor and then that will blow and then I am totally fucked. I mean 9 grand to build a motor, plus i need to buy a beater for the time being...it is so much damn money on cars it's crazy.

Obviously I could put a stock motor back in for quite a bit cheaper. But then the natural course of wanting more would set in and I would end up paying for labor twice, and that is a lot of labor. So i don't think it makes sense to not build the motor to keep the X.

The thing that appeals to me the most about going to the 9 is the plethora of options, the already very well documented abilities and what each mod does and obviously the lighter chassis, since if anything the drag strip is more my style. Not to mention after all is said and done, if I picked up a 9 with decent mods on it for 23-25k, and I parted the X out or got what i wanted out of it with all the mods included. I would actually not really have a car payment.

Hopefully it makes sense why I would want a 9.

Perhaps we should do a poll.

1) Fix the X.
2) Buy a IX.
3) STFU with all the waffling.

:rollinglaugh:

Added..minus the third...well I am going to try:)