Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog

[scheides]

Sleeving the motor, wow! Are you going to be sending in your shortblock as a core or just purchasing a motor outright? When I was shopping, cores were nowhere to be found, national backorder and noone had anything.

[Kracka]

I'm pretty sure MAP currently either has 4B11 cores or can get them quickly (last I heard anyway).

[v8klla]

I'd feel just as comfortable having MAP do the motor but I want to avoid any local shop "stuff" we'll call it, so that is my only reason for not using them.

So god forbid you have another failure down the line you'll end up paying for the labor to remove and install plus ship it out to whomever builds it for inspection? Your logic is a bit confusing lol.

Either way, I wish you the best of luck. I hate to see anyone go through something like this. I'm amazed at how patient you've been to this point.

[v8klla]

I'm pretty sure MAP currently either has 4B11 cores or can get them quickly (last I heard anyway).

They are readily available, turn around will depend mostly on Darton's time frame...

[mlomker]

I'm very excited to see how a high compression X tunes up. When it comes time to fix my motor <sigh> it'll be at MAP.

[Murlo26]

Perhaps I shouldn't have even updated the thread until the car was running again by the looks of some of this.

I'm a bit confused why you'd go non-local when MAP is right there... They build damn good engines that are proven. Did DB take responsibility for the failure? Are they footing the bill for this next build? Also kinda confused why they aren't bumping you up in line and getting you taken care of ASAP considering everything you've had them do for you, especially with how patient you've been throughout this process.

I love MAP, I deal with them all the time and have had good experiences. I love DB as well that is why I have used them for tons of stuff including my motor build(s).

In my opinion I am in the shittiest situation ever. Sure I'd love to have MAP toss together a motor quick and be back on the road right away. However if everyone fails to acknowledge there is bad blood between DB and MAP you guys are crazy haha. I don't know what else to do guys. My stress levels are at an all time high right now at work, I am working crazy hours trying to accomplish projects outside my capability for a guy who quit last week that was my lead engineer. These are not fun times for me now, I'd love to cruise in the evo to let off some steam but I can't.

Shit happens in the modding game, I have no idea whose fault it is or why it failed...I just know what needs to be replaced. DB said they can't give me a timetable if I let them fix the shortblock in house. It's not their fault, I am a good customer of theirs I think and although I am, they have 100 good customers, I can't expect him to "bump" me to the front of the line.

What I am trying to avoid is getting my car back in winter again. I was very pleased with the whole process last time. I just am not prepared to go 2 whole summers without a car so I am trying to work with DB on the situation as best I can.

Sleeving the motor, wow! Are you going to be sending in your shortblock as a core or just purchasing a motor outright? When I was shopping, cores were nowhere to be found, national backorder and noone had anything.

Shipping my block out. The block is still fine.

So god forbid you have another failure down the line you'll end up paying for the labor to remove and install plus ship it out to whomever builds it for inspection? Your logic is a bit confusing lol.

Either way, I wish you the best of luck. I hate to see anyone go through something like this. I'm amazed at how patient you've been to this point.

I know exactly what you are saying and you are right.

But as I said I am working with what I have, I don't know what else to do. I am trying to do this without pissing anyone off, realistically I shouldn't have to worry about that as its my money but I consider both shops my friends whether they do or don't I don't know.

I AM IN A PICKLE GUYS! I just want my car back. I think the plan I have in place is the best I can do with what I have but fuck if I know.

[311evo]

*got a bad feeling about this thread*

[Kracka]

DB built you a motor, it failed, they can't promise you a timeframe to get another one done, so what right would they have to be pissed no matter who you chose to build your next engine...their rival or not?

Frankly, had their engine not failed you wouldn't be in this situation. Now note, I am not blaming DB, engines fail...unfortunately that's part of the risk we take in the modding game.

[311evo]

^

IIRC There are quite a few more factors in this engine fail then the fact that DB built it.

[Kracka]

^

IIRC There are quite a few more factors in this engine fail then the fact that DB built it.
Please don't think I'm blaming the failure on DB, I am not. All I am saying is Murlo gave DB the opportunity to take care of his engine and if they're unable to then I see no reason why they'd be upset no matter where he decided to go to accommodate his timetable.

I'm just trying to look at the situation as a neutral outside party.