Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog

[scheides]

Overlays complete!

http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/overlays/scheides-bbx-e85-vs-murlo-fpblack-e85-32psi.jpg

http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/overlays/scheides-bbx-e85-vs-murlo-fpblack-e85-32psi-boost.jpg

Big difference between our setups is cams and tubular exhaust manifold I think eh? These are a LONG time apart so uber grains of salt needed, but the shapes of the curves say a lot. The BBX is obviously smaller and starting to be tapped out, the Black has a ways yet to go. Maybe my kelford cams help a little more down low, or maybe thats just turbo size showing its face. Either way, interesting to look at, I bet they are damn similar on the street!

[Murlo26]

Nice, interesting graphs for sure. Thanks :)

The bbx is a solid performer for sure.

[Murlo26]

YAY!

The last of the parts needed...well basically.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b252/Murlo26/dc9f28e4.jpg

I love new OEM parts...mmmmm.

All that's left is to sell my black and then pick up MAP's turbo for testing and some FIC 1680's so when I go E98 I have enough injector!

Parts make me happy!

In case you can't tell from the awesome pic, its a new OEM oil cooler, oil pump, gasket kit, and some mivec o-rings!

[PlanoEvo]

Interesting to see the benefit of extra displacement the black on murlos spools just a quick as the smaller turbo on scheides which would see much less torque if he ran the black

[Murlo26]

I am currently trying to sell the black, I'll be running a MAP turbo this time around more than likely, unless I can't find a good buyer for the black.

[Kracka]

Andrew - Those charts are from when Murlo had a 2.0L, he is currently building the 2.2L. The Black seemed to spool almost as quickly as the BBX, but look at how much sooner the BBX's torque came on vs. the Black's.

[Murlo26]

Andrew - Those charts are from when Murlo had a 2.0L, he is currently building the 2.2L. The Black seemed to spool almost as quickly as the BBX, but look at how much sooner the BBX's torque came on vs. the Black's.

Different cam setups for one and Scheides had real E85 which helps a bit. Both of which aren't huge differences in my mind.

Honestly, the big difference in my mind is the tubular manifold. The black wouldn't spool quite as fast with that in the comparison and would've picked up quite a bit of power/torque. I picked up like 25whp/15wtq just by bolting it on untuned.

With the tubular mani on there, for my car to reach 30ish psi the turbo would've been pushed a lot more and I think i would've made quite a bit more power. We will never know for sure now but the comparison is by no means perfect as Scheides said. I really wish I could've gotten the car tuned again by Shane before it had problems. Oh well.

[Murlo26]

Heard back from RC Engineering today about my injectors, they all flowed right around 1390cc's at 43.5psi...so despite all the online shit talk about DW injectors mine work fine still I guess. I still want to upgrade to the FIC 1680's though for some headroom and mainly because I was getting some p0300's. The injectors all were within 1-2% so right on.

[scheides]

Good to hear!

[Kracka]

What a shock, EXF nutswingers are wrong :)

DW's are the most commonly used injectors down here and I haven't heard of a single person having issues with them. The problem is everyone thinks they're a tuner and immediately blames everything but themselves when their cars run like shit and/or blow up.