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scheides
05-10-2012, 10:28 AM
How are you still screwing around with your injectors? I thought they were set?

Buy some FIC 1680's man, they're not as bad as everyone says ;)

Murlo26
05-10-2012, 10:34 AM
How are you still screwing around with your injectors? I thought they were set?

Buy some FIC 1680's man, they're not as bad as everyone says ;)

I have no idea, they suck, lol. They just seem very very inconsistent. I have done tons of logging and just when you start to think you are getting close they wonder around for trims like crazy.

I am running my stock intake duct taped in there basically right now so I am on stock MAF scaling to try and get the injectors perfect.

Maybe I should just upgrade to the 1680's. So you haven't seen any problems on them? Did you have to do any minIPW shit? And they run pump gas well enough to put a tank through every once in a while?

scheides
05-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Yes I had to drop minIPW but it was a single, simple change and no issues since then. They ran like crap w/o that change.

They run great on pump gas.

The scaling/latancies I'm using are from mrfred...shane kinda hates them b/c the car does some goofy shit but end of the day it starts every time just fine (just fixed hot start issue this week actually, but that was minor), and the car drives good and smooth. AFRs are very consistent on the street.

Kracka
05-10-2012, 10:43 AM
Reading this makes me love my ID1000's even more...you would never, ever, know they're anything but stock (idle, drivability, start-up, etc.) :)

Does ID make anything between their 1k's and 2k's?

Murlo26
05-10-2012, 10:47 AM
Hmmm, well I emailed MAP to see if they have any in stock. If they do maybe I will impulse buy them and dump my DW's.

Kracka, if ID made anything close to what I need, even 1200's would probably work, I'd run those all day long. But nope, just 1k to 2k for them and I don't want to deal with the 2000's on stock ECU, they can work well but it takes a lot of work. And frankly I want to beat on my car some! I haven't gone WOT in months now.

I also have to swap in my hobbs switch to get rid of the blaq box I have. I don't care for it and I think it just complicates things and I don't see an advantage.

Kracka
05-10-2012, 10:50 AM
Are you sure the ID1k's wouldn't work for you? They're rated conservatively and I'm probably around only 50-60% IDC right now.

Murlo26
05-10-2012, 10:56 AM
Pretty sure. I was over 100% duty cycle on my DW1000's on my FPred setup at a lot less power. At least I think I was. 420whp vs. 500whp on DB's dyno.

I wouldn't buy anything smaller, mine work, just not great. And I don't want to spend money unless its a for sure thing.

scheides
05-10-2012, 11:02 AM
Are you sure the ID1k's wouldn't work for you? They're rated conservatively and I'm probably around only 50-60% IDC right now.

There's no way those would be enough on his car. ID was going to make 1500's, same as my FIC 1680's but they got the plug pulled on them for some reason.

Kracka
05-10-2012, 11:20 AM
shane kinda hates them b/c the car does some goofy shit
ID was going to make 1500's, same as my FIC 1680's but they got the plug pulled on them for some reason.
Probably that.

Murlo26
05-10-2012, 11:28 AM
ID had 1600's out for quite a while actually. They pulled there injectors first (they were based on the same injector as the FIC 1680's).

FIC did their own testing and still have the 1680's but they are strictly E85 rated only due to the fuel temp issues.