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evotuner
07-28-2014, 05:43 PM
You'll get it man, just keep at it.

Just remember once this car is running to read through all your old posts and you'll remember to leave the car alone and just enjoy it ;)

Kracka
07-29-2014, 08:03 AM
Luckily the X intake mani is way easier to R&R than the 8/9's!

Murlo26
07-29-2014, 12:40 PM
Luckily the X intake mani is way easier to R&R than the 8/9's!

In exchange for turbos being harder to switch. I'd rather have it the other way as i am more likely to change exhaust manifolds/turbos than intake manifolds!

But from a performance/heat aspect the X is smarter.

Yes, it isn't too bad to pull off, but its just a pain to have to do it over and over again ya know.

Kracka
07-29-2014, 12:57 PM
Totally understand that. So now you'll have 3 gaskets for a grand total of about $150?


This is the type I recommend, just so everyone is on the same page, they generally sold for around $25 or so and require no extra hardware, gaskets, etc.:

http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/547/IMGP1544.JPG

Murlo26
07-29-2014, 01:21 PM
Totally understand that. So now you'll have 3 gaskets for a grand total of about $150?


This is the type I recommend, just so everyone is on the same page, they generally sold for around $25 or so and require no extra hardware, gaskets, etc.:

http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/547/IMGP1544.JPG

That is what I had before. But the consensus seemed to be the gasket was the issue.

Then the new one basically made it worse. Which is why I think its the actual manifold not the gasket. I am sure if the manifold was true/flat I never would've had an issue.

And yes, i paid 30 bucks for that other one, worked great.

And also yes, now I have a total of 3 gaskets, worth like $150! It's stupid. I told them they need to update their site to say that you will need 3 as then I don't think most people would buy them.

When I bought the spacer that I have now they said it was the same as the old MAP one which is the white one I have which it wasn't.

Anyway, the plan is to see if this silly sandwich of gaskets fits with enough threads to torque it down properly. If so I will use it. If not I am saying screw it and i bought some permatex copper spray and I will use one OEM gasket and spray. I wanted to have a thermal spacer as the idea is sound and I think they work but this has gotten out of hand.

In the meantime I am still going to have MAP check the mating surface on the manifold and if its not true as i suspect they will fix it.

Halon
07-29-2014, 02:00 PM
Geebus, so a spacer and 2 gaskets, that doesn't increasing the chance of a future boost leak.

Murlo26
07-29-2014, 02:47 PM
Geebus, so a spacer and 2 gaskets, that doesn't increasing the chance of a future boost leak.

I'm not a fan of it either.

But I also am not a fan of using spray gasket stuff either.

At this point I feel committed to get this to work and MAP said the 2 oem gaskets and the thermal spacer has been proven so I will trust them.

Like I said, I have a back up plan for just returning to one OEm gasket and saying screw the thermal spacer.

Kracka
07-29-2014, 03:00 PM
Geebus, so a spacer and 2 gaskets, that doesn't increasing the chance of a future boost leak.
Agree. Rather than 2 surfaces to potentially leak, you now have 4.

Obviously hoping it all works out for you! Are the stock studs/bolts long enough?

Murlo26
07-29-2014, 03:19 PM
Agree. Rather than 2 surfaces to potentially leak, you now have 4.

Obviously hoping it all works out for you! Are the stock studs/bolts long enough?

Dunno. MAP seems to think so. The plan is to test fit the sandwich and if its long enough with enough threads go with it. If not, screw the spacer and single OEM gasket time.

I hope it works too, just a dumb problem to have keeping me from driving the car. I need to tune the car too so this is holding that up too. Hell, it will be winter by the time its all wrapped up at this rate.

A//// Guy
07-29-2014, 03:27 PM
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