Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog

[mlomker]

They had posted an ad on Facebook to hire a couple people. Not sure if they have yet but maybe things will improve a bit.

[cmspaz]

I installed my injectors inside the shop, shouldn't be a huge deal.

[311evo]

I installed my injectors inside the shop, shouldn't be a huge deal.

Yeah.. Injector installs are a bit different then engine installs. Especially as far as an insurance liability goes. The only people who are going to let you know if it's okay would obviously be Shane or Danny.

[Murlo26]

Yeah.. Injector installs are a bit different then engine installs. Especially as far as an insurance liability goes. The only people who are going to let you know if it's okay would obviously be Shane or Danny.

Bingo...I am guessing insurance wouldn't happen. I am not sure how much time it takes to assemble a long block. I'd assume a few days to assemble and drop in and maybe another day to wrap up the little shit. Unless you are beast then you could prolly knock most out in 2 days working long ass days.

No idea though, it all depends on what problems you hit I think.

I'll stick to praying they can squeeze in the motor re-installation in a few days when the motor gets back.../praying.

[Murlo26]

I already found a buyer for my AMS downpipe as I have been wanting to switch out to an o2 dump one....want the most out of the setup etc etc and my car is already stupid loud anyway.

Regardless, I was talking to Chris Carey a bit today in emails and found this..

http://www.maperformance.com/product.php?productid=101234

The thought is to run this with an external gate in conjunction with my internal gate. MAP did this on their 722whp stock frame evo 8 shop car and it worked great. It allows you to easily implement a nice external gate without sacrificing twin scroll. Just going to an external gate without keeping the internal one gets rid of twinscroll. The only other way to keep it is to use two external gates on your manifold which is like a 2k manifold setup...no thanks.

So I was planning to get MAP's downpipe anyway so I figured for a few hundred bucks I won't have to worry about my wastegate opening up as I believe it was before.

Everyone's thoughts? I know more boost != more power but for the sake of discussion ignore that and assume it will :)

I see no downsides other than possibly spending 200-300 extra dollars on something that may not work...otherwise it won't hurt anything else I don't think. It's the best of both worlds as Chris said and I believe its the same setup AWD motorsports uses to hold boost so well on their stock frame cars.

[scheides]

Nice! that would be pretty slick!

[Murlo26]

I think so, I think its worth a try for sure. If I could get the black to hold boost like it does on the evo 8/9's that could be worth quite a bit of power. I mean it is the same wheels and everything just a shittier housing I think so who knows.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

We run them that same way on some originally internally gated turbo cars. There is a possible downside and it is turbo failure. If your turbo fails and the manufacturer figures out you were doing that, then they might not warranty it. The internal gate is somewhat is a safety feature to help save your turbo, when the exhaust back pressures get way too high, it blows the internal gate open and slows the turbo back down some(boost drops). A lot of people try to push these bolt-on turbos farther than they were designed to make for boost and power for more than a few 1/4 mile passes and that's when you can see failures.

[Murlo26]

I am a 1/4 mile kinda guy, not endurance so hopefully I'd be ok.

Lets pretend the turbo in question was ball bearing, would the risk be reduced greatly?

I don't plan to push the car quite as hard as before, at least not right away until I make sure everything is perfectly working but the X turbos seem to really dump boost up top compared to their 8/9 counterparts.

edit: what kind of spring pressure would I need on the external gate? I am looking at the compgate ones that MAP designed their downpipe for and they go up to 26psi...I am guessing at least 20psi but maybe external gates don't need that high of a spring?

[311evo]

I am a 1/4 mile kinda guy, not endurance so hopefully I'd be ok.


I'll remember you saying that next time something blows up and you're bummed about it. :) Did you buy your car to go down the track a few times or to have some fun on the road?