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[Murlo26]

Get AGP's FMIC instead...and Depo's aluminum IC pipes. For real, I've installed a few sets and they are nice; fairly thick aluminum so they don't crush yet are still a fraction of the weight of steel pipes.

Shit? Serial? Almost every actual track person seems to use ETS and they have always performed well.

I hate AGP, their turbo kit is a joke for the X and just seems like a total POS. Its a laggy turd and their parts always seem to break. Yes, they have awesome customer service and replace stuff quickly, but I just want something proven.

I chose not to support depo after some of the BS i saw on the forums unfortunately. I am sure their stuff works and works well but I want to support merica as much as i can :)

Man I was hoping to keep this talk more about size of IC, not picking a company lol. I am having enough trouble just picking the IC let alone the manufacturer.

[Kracka]

I don't care about AGP's turbo kit, we're talking intercoolers here. AGP's is the same price as the ETS 3.5" and far nicer.

If you stick with ETS, then at least get the 3.5" core. I wouldn't suggest the 3" for anyone but someone going to further than mega basic bolt-ons. In terms of IC pipes, it's tough to find nice aluminum ones; since the demise of Nisei, Depo is one of the few companies making IC pipes that meet my standards. Cobb's are nice, but are $$$ and don't fit as well (plus their LICP is only 2.5", I prefer 2.75-3" to take advantage of a ported TB...with a matching FMIC outlet).

[Murlo26]

Well so you basically echo what I have been hearing, the 3.5" is ideal and the 4" will probably even get you a bit more (5hp?).

I think I might go 4" just to maximize my stock turbo setup. The 3.5 and 4" are both the same lead time right now so I mind as well get max cooling if I am not trying to get the one in stock and size it only for the stock turbo.

If I get impatient waiting for my new IC I will toss on the stocker to start tuning.

[Kracka]

Doesn't MAP have some new intercooler they're prototyping?

[Murlo26]

Doesn't MAP have some new intercooler they're prototyping?

Yes, lead time issue.

I was going to originally use MAP for everythign but they don't make a LICP and getting the FMIC together was a problem in any real timeline with their current workload.

[Murlo26]

Ok, so talked with Chris some on gmail chat or whatever. He convinced me of his suggestions and to save some dough.

Now this is my setup for the year I think:

stock x turbo (ported/coated by MAP)
Stock x exhaust manifold (Ported/coated by MAP)
MAP o2 dump downpipe with 3d flange (ported by MAP)
AGP 3.5" FMIC
Depo Racing UICP
Depo Racing 3" LICP
ETS Intake with velocity stack
MAP Rev 3 Intake Manifold - coated as well
MAP 64mm Ported Throttle body
ID1300cc injectors (finally making the jump to ID, was too cheap before but they are the best from all the tuners I have talked to)
AEM320 pump

I think that is the majority of the changes and new stuff. Otherwise, same 2.2L 10:1 compression motor, same head setup with GSC s2 cams etc.

The stock turbo and manifold are already bought and on their way later this week.

I am sure I will need to pick up a slew of stock gaskets, lines, bolts, studs etc but I will tackle that with install.

Hoping for a 420whp/450wtq type of setup. (dynojet numbers, not db numbers). I made 393/396 at MAP on my original stock turbo setup on my stock 2.0L so I think this is doable but only time will tell.

I am excited that I am going to drive the car again, been forever.

[scheides]

Honestly on e85 on the stock turbo idk if I'd put all that money into porting and coating. Just KISS and get it running; your list is already a mile long!

I saw one of those AEM pumps this weekend at the newb mod day...it took hours to install...I wasn't impressed. I'd just go with a DW65 pump. Are these AEM pumps the new hot shit or something?

[scheides]

Oh, and 3.0" fmic? Umm, no. I'd rather just rock a stock or ebay one ;).

Listen to hughes!

[goodhart]

Jesus titty fucking christ you love to complicate this thing at every corner don't you Dave? :lol:

Don't you already have an aftermarket FMIC? If so, leave it alone.

Already have a ballin ass fuel system? Leave it alone!

Already have injectors, piping, intake mani, throttle body? Why not leave it all alone? Just get the thing running dude, my god.



tl;dr version: Don't over complicate shit so much. Get the thing running. Build it for yourself, not every internet record on every super kewl forum out there.

[Murlo26]

No I don't have any of the items I'm talking about here, I parted it all out last year.

Scheides, I talked to Hughes about the porting and coating and he said go for it, I wasn't sure if I wanted it or not. I wanted the AEM just based on size and price, eventually that will feed a surge tank. I hate DW pumps so I don't want that, I'd rather go wally 255.

Yes I do like to complicate shit:) I'm not going for a record really just want the car running.