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mlomker
06-17-2010, 10:05 AM
Before ordering more parts, toss my double pump in and try it man, lol.
I've already ripped out the progressive controller and we have different plumbing and wiring. It's not impossible but it'd be 3-4 hours of work to test something and then I'd have to pull it back out.
If LJ can't help me figure out what's up with the Full Blown hanger then I already know that a single pump in my stock hanger works...I ran that for over six months. It'd just be a matter of getting it back.
I hate it as much as you do but I have to do this one step at a time.
mlomker
06-17-2010, 10:06 AM
So if you ordered a 3" ETS one, stop the order!
Interesting. I'll get ETS on the phone after the next meeting.
mlomker
06-17-2010, 11:17 AM
Cancelled the ETS order since they weren't sure where theirs would max. Most of the big power cars have been on 4" intakes using their 35r kits. The 4" intakes neck down to a 3" MAF housing and the same 5" filter so it seems a little odd that it results in more flow. <shrug>
I've got an email into CBRD and IveyTune (ETS' suggestion) to get an opinion. I'm thinking I might need a 3" inlet upgrade on the turbo and a custom 3.5" intake. ETS figured they could do one but they'd have to source a flange and it'd take a few weeks if they needed to machine one.
My build is breaking more ground than I wanted or expected. lol.
Murlo26
06-17-2010, 11:34 AM
Yea, I emailed ETS and DB. I am either going to have to have DB fab one for me, or see if ETS can. Thankfully the FP turbo's have a 3" inlet.
That's what happens when you are the first to try things buddy, don't fret, it will work out.
scheides
06-17-2010, 12:01 PM
Cancelled the ETS order since they weren't sure where theirs would max. Most of the big power cars have been on 4" intakes using their 35r kits. The 4" intakes neck down to a 3" MAF housing and the same 5" filter so it seems a little odd that it results in more flow. <shrug>
I've got an email into CBRD and IveyTune (ETS' suggestion) to get an opinion. I'm thinking I might need a 3" inlet upgrade on the turbo and a custom 3.5" intake. ETS figured they could do one but they'd have to source a flange and it'd take a few weeks if they needed to machine one.
My build is breaking more ground than I wanted or expected. lol.
Might wanna check with Bryan@GST and see what he's using on some of his BBX or FP Red E85 cars, he must be near that threshold as well (might just be included in his posts about them). I would just have DB mod or make you a 3.5" intake and be done with it.
scheides
06-17-2010, 12:44 PM
Posted this on evoM but thought it was worth posting here too:
I'm kinda thinking something like this:
http://store.max-redline.com/servlet/-strse-49/Detail
plus this:
http://www.jmfabrications.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=50&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=58
plus a short 1.5" pipe for recirculating your BOV. Do it to it :)
mlomker
06-17-2010, 12:56 PM
I would just have DB mod or make you a 3.5" intake and be done with it.
I figured I'd gather data for a day on the national forums but I'll ask DB what they can do, first.
plus a short 1.5" pipe for recirculating your BOV. Do it to it
That and some welding. If it'd result in more flow then you could cut down the 3" AMS pipe or use the stock plastic MAF housing with a larger pipe behind it. I'd want to leave this to Shane, Primo, or whoever can do it...the last thing I want is to homebrew something that Shane can't get to scale. I've heard that 4" pipes will not work with the MAF but I'm not sure about 3.5".
The thing is, the turbo only has a 2.75" inlet. I never took fluid dynamics or whatever so I don't understand how a bigger pipe in front of a small inlet works out. Is it because the turbo is sucking? :confused:
Murlo26
06-17-2010, 01:12 PM
http://www.maperformance.com/jm-fabrications-maf-flange-evo-x.html
You can get this in 3.5" size or 4" size :)
I think it is just a matter of not letting the MAF read 5.0V and then Shane can tune around it however. Even if it necks down it shouldn't matter too much, the problem here is the fact the MAF is maxed. With a bigger pipe, I believe that the MAF sees less air since there is more room around it to flow and therefore it reads a different voltage.
You could probably even cut the AMS part way and transition to a 3.5" intake where you put the MAF and filter.
I am probably going to sell my AMS one and I could probably pay for most of the fab work for DB.
scheides
06-17-2010, 01:23 PM
^That's what I just linked to a few posts up :)
So um, has anyone tried wiring in a GM MAF (3" or 3.5") in place of the stock EvoX MAF yet? wonder if they are compatible. Could also plumb it into a blow-through setup too if you were feeling crazy (not the best idea though imho).
Murlo26
06-17-2010, 01:25 PM
Yea I know, but i guess i didn't see the option for different sizes on your link, i probably missed it like a tard.
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