Evo X upgrades

[scheides]

^Good idea..I'd say give LJ a shot...otherwise throw your old 255 setup back in and have DB throw a boost a pump on it. I am actually considering switching to a single 255 with a boost a pump to simplify things. After seeing how many issues you have had, i want simple.

He doesn't have it anymore, that's the problem. I think we would have done that a few weekends back when I was helping as a test if he had one. Are there any other X's around with a single walbro setup that could be begged/bribed into letting their setup be borrowed? I've only got the stock pump in there so it's not much help afaik, lmk if it could be lomker.

[Matt D.]

Time to stop buying baller parts and start buying the right parts. I know these Blaqops and Full Blown pieces are pretty, but how practical are they? Something obviously isn't working right and using these things turned a rather simple system into being rather complex. Keep it simple and stop creating headaches for yourself.

[scheides]

These are the right parts, they're proven setups that have made great power and proven reliable. Nothing baller about them, they're made to do the job he bought them for. Just having problems with something, or multiple things, gotta get to the bottom of it!

[Matt D.]

These are the right parts, they're proven setups that have made great power and proven reliable. Nothing baller about them, they're made to do the job he bought them for. Just having problems with something, or multiple things, gotta get to the bottom of it!
If that's the case then I would be shocked to learn that he's the only person that's having this sort of fuel pickup problem. The whole thing with two fuel pumps and a progressive controller just seems to be far more complex than it has to be.

[mlomker]

I know its not using a baller piece but it gets the job done, and just throwing this out there, but I'm going to assume you can't do a 1g style twin pump setup?

baller was never the point. I'd originally gone with the Full Blown hanger because I didn't want the downtime of sending the stock hanger in to be modified and sent back to me. That whole attitude seems super-amusing right now but early on in the process that seemed rational.

Not sure what 1G style is. Right now we have the second pump set to come on at approx. 15psi and that seems to work fine now in a straight line. The issue is no longer the pumps but appears to be the 'cup' that the pumps sit in or the suction/return line that fills it...that cup acts as a mini surge tank to keep the pumps sitting in fuel even when gas sloshes around in the tank during turns.

It seems to me the smart thing is to at least wait until I can talk to LJ about this and give him a shot before trying the 3rd path (an inline or inline/surge tank setup).

BlaqOPs has my stock hanger. I think Chris would send it back but I need to decide if I want it back stock or with his double pump fittings on it, first.

[mlomker]

If that's the case then I would be shocked to learn that he's the only person that's having this sort of fuel pickup problem.

The progressive stuff is already gone. I'm running two standard Walbros right now. It's the same setup that Trevor has but it's in a Full Blown hanger instead of a stock one. The suction line and tanks on the X are totally different, unfortunately.

As far as if I'm the only one with problems...we don't really know why Dave's motor let go. I also don't know how many of these hangers Full Blown has installed out there. I know I bought one of the first ones and it may be the only one. Full Blown is building an Evo X shop car but it doesn't run yet so I'd imagine they haven't tested their hanger in it.

You seem to be under the impression that there is a tried & true way to run this kind of power on a X on E85 but there isn't. There are only a handful of companies doing any form of double pump for the X (BlaqOPs, Full Blown, AMS, Buschur). AMS does an inline, Buschur a double that is pretty much the same as what I've got now in the stock hanger.

[turbotalon1g]

I wasn't ribbing, sorry if it came off like that but I never see the point in these sweet expensive hangers unless its the only solution, but usually people want to be ignorant and argue that it is even when its not.

Since I have never seen an evo fuel pump assem. I wouldn't know. A 1g you can clamp 2 pumps together around the sending unit, but well you have shane there and Im sure he would of said something to u.

I completely agree with u talking to LJ first i hate when people go online and slag off companies/people they buy shit from without talking to them (not that u have) but maybe he has something for you.

I say talk to shane about an inline pump, but it sounds like these sweet hangers are the norm and should work.
good luck, i might be running to DB a little later if u want me to run something there, i think swift is coming up so maybe he can pick whatever up from u

[Murlo26]

Before ordering more parts, toss my double pump in and try it man, lol. You have spent so much already, i just hate to see you keep buying more and more parts and still have problems. It hurts me to see this even though i am not spending the money, lol. I never had issues with my setup really, a little bogging here and there, but usually on 1/4 or less, which is a stock evo type thing.

[mlomker]

After seeing how many issues you have had, i want simple.

I hope so. This fuel system is going to set me back thousands by the time it plays out.

Knowing our luck they'll start selling those damn hybrid Evos right about the time we figure everything out on the X.

[Murlo26]

You need a new intake lomker, i just spoke with Shane (email), AMS said Gates maxed out right right where shane asked about...they run a 3.5" intake on Gate's car.

So if you ordered a 3" ETS one, stop the order!