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311evo
06-21-2010, 05:27 AM
^Good attitude. Beyond blame at this point, just need to solve the problem and move forward.

Eagerly awaiting word from FB on this.

+1. I'd like to see what this thing can do when everything is working together smoothly.

mlomker
06-22-2010, 04:40 PM
Full Blown called. The pump housing was installed the 'wrong' way.

It turns out that FB designs their hangers such that the fuel inlets/outlets point forward toward the engine bay. This would place the slits in the cup to the back of the car. That actually could be enough to keep fuel from escaping as readily since during braking or turning the fuel would hit the solid parts of the cup.

All perfectly logical, other than the fact that the stock hanger isn't oriented that way and the hanger came with no instructions. lol.

I'm going to go pick up the car after work...I'm thinking I'll take it for the evening and find a big parking lot to perform some manuevers in to test it out.

Kracka
06-22-2010, 04:44 PM
They should have machined an arrow or some sort of indication as to how it should be oriented in the car. It seriously came with no instructions?

mlomker
06-22-2010, 04:47 PM
It seriously came with no instructions?

None. I had FB ship the hanger direct to BlaqOPs, who did the plumbing and (poorly done) wiring for me. He said it was just a bare hanger, some hose, and fittings and that's it.

I emailed LJ for info on the suction line setup since it made no sense to me and that's when he sent me a photo with one mocked up (that photo is a billion pages back in this thread). Nobody ever mentioned reorienting the hanger. I've had that thing in & out over a dozen times (and Shawn, simulatedwood, did it the first few times) and why wouldn't we assume that it was oriented the same as stock?

Not that I care at this point. I'll be ecstatic if this is the fix. I wanna run BIR on Monday!

Murlo26
06-22-2010, 04:51 PM
I would say this is good news! It was an easy fix...better than hearing, "Sorry, we don't know why it isn't working, ours works fine on our car, better luck next time!"

Danny said the car would knock flash on sweeping lefts so just start out by turning left on anything at speed, if it knocks, that could be bad, otherwise you should be good to go.

Good news man! Now throw those damn ID's in there and let er buck already!

Edit: forgot about the intake, lol.

mlomker
06-22-2010, 05:12 PM
Danny said the car would knock flash on sweeping lefts so just start out by turning left on anything at speed, if it knocks, that could be bad, otherwise you should be good to go.

I didn't see anything during regular freeway driving. Guess I'll just have to beat her a little and see if she likes it. :D

Matt D.
06-22-2010, 05:14 PM
Too bad cloverleafs go to the right. :)

Murlo26
06-22-2010, 08:37 PM
Too bad cloverleafs go to the right. :)

My thoughts exactly!

mlomker
06-23-2010, 11:03 AM
My thoughts exactly!

The roundabout in Eagan goes to the left! Reorienting the hanger didn't help, at least for how I want to use the car (auto-x and HPDE).

It doesn't cost much for them to block off the slits in the hanger cup as a test so I suppose that's worth trying. I may just have to go to a surge tank setup. MDR makes a decent looking kit but it looks like FB is equipped to fab things like that.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-engine-turbo-drivetrain/471693-evo-x-bolt-surge-tank-kit.html

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Took the car for a drive this morning and here's what I discovered:

1) I drove the car in figure-8 patterns and in circles in a parking lot and it seemed fine while it was performing the manuever, at a constant throttle position. When I stoped and paused for a moment (while waiting to exit the parking lot), I saw the knockCEL indicator flash.

2) I drove around the roundabout in Eagan 3-4 times (a left turn) and when I exited I applied a little bit of throttle, similar to what you'd do at the track. The car misfired and the check engine light came back on (I had cleared it before leaving the house).

Murlo26
06-23-2010, 11:05 AM
Surge tank time.... :(