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A//// Guy
08-02-2010, 10:57 AM
That turbo is oh so sexy.
Good power! Was expecting more, e85? hehe
mlomker
08-02-2010, 11:00 AM
I think they will be closer than everyone thinks! That's a whole other discussion though.
Not sure if you've followed the SteedSpeed manifold saga but they custom CNC manifolds that are shaped like the stocker. They've tried a handful of designs so far but haven't even been able to outflow a stock manifold yet. There are some aspects of the 4B11T where Mitsu did a pretty fine job.
That said, it may just do with the amount of space they have to work in. I have yet to see a post saying "I gained 30whp from a ported stocker." We've seen a fair number of posts from Full Race and CBRD showing such gains.
Kracka
08-02-2010, 11:05 AM
I know a ported/coated stocker is my plan when/if I decide to do a manifold.
Murlo26
08-02-2010, 11:06 AM
I know a ported/coated stocker is my plan when/if I decide to do a manifold.
I really wish I would've done back to back testing on this for everyone's sake, the main reason I stuck with the stock one ported was Shane said the tubular's normally lose spool. However, not sure if the X is different, but the fullrace and CBRD ones seem to not lose any spool but gain quite a bit up top, just not sure if my ported one is really helping or not.
Kracka
08-02-2010, 11:19 AM
My guess is MAP would donate the dyno time for you and Scheides to swap. I think you have the MAP ported/coated, right?
Murlo26
08-02-2010, 11:20 AM
My guess is MAP would donate the dyno time for you and Scheides to swap. I think you have the MAP ported/coated, right?
Yes sir :)
I'd be happy to stop by for this for some testing if Scheides wanted to, but I need a working car first :)
scheides
08-02-2010, 11:30 AM
I'll have to check out that steed speed manifold, otherwise a MAP Rev2 is all I really plan on doing/trying. I'll see if I can get some dyno data to back it up ;)
mlomker
08-02-2010, 01:07 PM
I'll see if I can get some dyno data to back it up ;)
There are quite a few folks that'd like to see it. Once you have bolts in there it shouldn't be very hard to swap manis on and off.
t-revzr
08-03-2010, 06:29 PM
Took a ride in this Rip today. Car feels so good up top reminds me of the black. It's so so smooth! I cant even tell when it hits it's full boost it's that smooth...
scheides
08-10-2010, 10:00 PM
Not much of an update, but shortly after installing the BBX and posting the other plot I tweaked the timing maps slightly and installed the dw800's. I did a few VDR runs and peak power is anywhere from 328-340 depending on the run. It's not perfect but way better than before. Here's an idea of what it looks like compared to the stock turbo setup:
http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/overlays/X-28psi-vs-BBX-27psi--vdr-scheidestuning.JPG
I ran the car HARD at the autoX test & tune on sunday. 115° ambient heat and I was revving it like a mofo. I got 21 runs in and all but the first on each course were pretty aggressive. Very little knock except for bouncing off the rev limiter @8000rpm in 1st gear, I over revved to 8159rpm oops!
Here's some logs from the standalone logger, kinda shows timing, peaking at 14° at 7000rpm and steady to 8000.
http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/log0072excerpt-east_course_DCTC_1215pm-EvoX-BBX.xls
The car needs some tuning, but first it needs a downpipe. The stock downpipe is still on the car as well as the stock o2 housing and I now know that it really just makes this a laggy setup. Not aweful it is damn smooth and you can see the gains from the new turbo are there, but alas, like everyone else, I want more :) I'm shopping around, rexpeed, MAP o2 elim, AMS, lots of nice downpipes out there but goddamn the audi prices. I had dreams of a nice AMS or MAP unit ceramic coated but my damn bang/buck concience keeps kicking in (call it my DSMStyle?) and for $210 shipped I can get a taiwaneese Rexpeed unit that is full 3" all the way to the test pipe.
I was going to get tuned before/after the downpipe/ported manifold but I realize now that its silly. I want to get fully tuned by shane AFTER I get the downpipe on, the stock one is just a silly restriction at this point and tuning it will be semi frivolous.
I had a dream last night that I had rod knock and there was white coolant smoke billowing out from the engine bay. Yeow. Nothing to do now but keep moving forward! :)
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