beaterX project thread

[Murlo26]

I think you will be happy with the kelfords or the S2's. Both are great cams, I debated on the kelfords, but I wanted more top end as that is what my setup was aimed at, however I didn't seem to lose any low end :)

Kelfords are proven and work great, AMS still uses them in all their builds I believe. The kelford B's are designed for 35r sized turbos, I asked kelford and that is what they told me, so you should be good.

[scheides]

Kelfords are proven and work great, AMS still uses them in all their builds I believe. The kelford B's are designed for 35r sized turbos, I asked kelford and that is what they told me, so you should be good.

Heh big cams + little turbo = most fun! This whole 'designed for XX-sized turbos' is kinda sillyness. Bigger cams will help you get more power more safely out of a setup but you will likely lose some driveability but that's about it.

Even if I go with the kelfords and regret not getting the S2's later at this point I'm not afraid to just swap them in next spring or whenever. The head will be set with strong valvesprings and while doing cams is more of a pita on the 4b11t but it's not any worse than doing cams/timing belt at the same time on a 4G63 :)

[Kracka]

Cobb uses only Kelfords on their X builds too.

[polishmafia]

The chunk of ring must have had its way with this thing like Hotdog on Murlo.

:lol:

[mlomker]

I need to verify the rev limit of them on a 'bigger' set of cams.

I couldn't get a straight answer out of Cosworth even when used with their MX1s. I guess they don't want the liability of making any recommendations. They forwarded me the spec sheets. :loser:

[scheides]

Lame. That makes me lean towards the supertechs even more then. Too bad kelford and GSC's beehive's are on backorder too, they are good to 9000rpm with their cams.

Damn am I really building my motor? And talking about revving it to 9k? Good god what's wrong with me. I'm getting excited for mega wide powerband though :)

[Murlo26]

I'd go with the supertechs if I were you, they were still pretty reasonable, I think like 300ish if I remember.

Then you will be set regardless of cams and I can verify they work out to 9k :)

[mlomker]

Good god what's wrong with me.

Your fmic sale thread hinted that you might be thinking about a larger turbo?

[Murlo26]

Your fmic sale thread hinted that you might be thinking about a larger turbo?

LOL, i seriously thought the exact same thing. I was going to post in that thread and ask but I didn't want to get hated on again for clouding up FS threads...

Out with it Scheides! You are doing the CBRD BBX-B aren't you? Arent you?!?!?

[scheides]

Haha, no crazy turbos just yet sorry guys :) Just gonna see what this standard BBX will do on a full setup for pump gas! Down the road, who knows :D

So I stopped by MAP over lunch today; they were concerned that the stock sleeeves would get too thin with boring....I can't remember anyone else running into problems with a simple .020" overbore but I saw the 4b11t in a whole new way today. Look at this pic. The block is aluminum. The sleeves are steel/iron/magic......tell me where one ends and the other begins:

(also, enjoy this awesome pic of turbotalon1g)
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-engine/IMG_1516.sized.jpg

Crazy eh? From the bottom there is a very small lip that looks like part of the sleve, not like a huge sleeve that got inserted from the bottom.

More pics? I love pics. Only thing that keeps me going some days. torque plate is in, crank and everything else look happy as a clam.

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-engine/IMG_1517.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-engine/IMG_1518.sized.jpg

I get all sorts of crazy ideas in my head when I go and visit MAP or DB or RS....I'm glad I just made simple decisions and am pushing forward with a nice basic 2.0 build. The block is decked, and boring comes next to fit in these puppies:

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-engine/IMG_1520.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-engine/IMG_1521.sized.jpg

Sooo light. Standard JE's, .5mm/.020" over, the block will get bored today/tomorrow and the pistons fit this week. The fancy rods are on their way. I am impressed with the progress.