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scheides
01-12-2011, 09:29 AM
Awesome that the motor is so healthy man!! So, what mods do you have since last tuned other than the built motor (same compression right?) and the cams then?

Built motor, ported head w/ +1mm valves, Kelford cams, Buschur FMIC. Also the last time I was on shane's dyno I did not have the tubular manifold, so it will be verrrry interesting to see where it lands. I am trying HARD to tell myself to tune it very conservatively since its still winter, so if I can do that and see 360whp on pump I will be pretty happy. I still have dreams of 400 on pump, but with snow tires and nowhere to actually use it keeping it conservative is prolly the way to go. I can always turn up the boost and timing for the spring dyno day :)

A few x-factor thigns, bcs and higher rev limit. I have the mbc/bcs hybrid boost control setup now which should eliminate boost taper up top. Also, in both pump gas and race gas dynos last fall with the rev limiter set at 8000 power was still climbing at the rev limiter. With the built head, I'll be able to rev it much higher if I want to, so there may be some peak number gains there too. In the end both of these are only top-end gains but who knows what they might be, 5-15whp? Dunno, we'll see I guess!

turbotalon1g
01-12-2011, 09:35 AM
Those new Jay racing or DW pumps would do you just fine.

scheides
01-12-2011, 09:40 AM
Those new Jay racing or DW pumps would do you just fine.

Yea, and the crazy thing is that even on pump gas I feel like I might be at the absolute limit of the DW800's so I thought about pulling the trigger earlier than later on the fuel pump. This would hopefully get me a little bit more headroom with them. In the end keeping the stock fuel pump in there will (hopefully) force me to keep the tune conservative.

goodhart
01-12-2011, 11:13 AM
360 on pump with a quick spooling turbo would be nuts on teh corn. Heck, I wish I could make 360 on pump lol.

These 4b11's just seem to love to rev out like crazy huh?

turbotalon1g
01-12-2011, 11:15 AM
360 on pump = :drool:, sadly I'm a few generations back and I think 260whp on pump would be where I would have to aim and fail at.

Fuck a conservative tune, well not a safe tune but you have a built motor and head so why not make the power it can, if want less turn it down.

Kevin 1G Drummer
01-12-2011, 12:27 PM
Fuck a conservative tune, well not a safe tune but you have a built motor and head so why not make the power it can, if want less turn it down.
You do realize he drives this every day and beats the piss out of it regularly, right? A "ragged edge" tune is not exactly ideal, even with his built bottom end.

turbotalon1g
01-12-2011, 12:31 PM
I knew someone was gonna take that the wrong way.

I'm saying its a built motor I believe built to handle 700whp, so he can make 400-500 and be ok.

I think by keeping the stock pump he won't be keeping the tune conservative but more so the power levels, which he can control by just turning the boost down or having a hi-lo tune.

Murlo26
01-12-2011, 12:38 PM
You always have such worth while updates Scheides, lol.

Awesome to hear man, I would assume you will hit 360whp not problem. a pump gas Fpred hit just over 350whp on Shanes dyno with a stock motor so i would assume you will easily hit that goal. Maybe even 400whp on pump...i think its possible but we will see I guess.

mlomker
01-12-2011, 12:58 PM
These 4b11's just seem to love to rev out like crazy huh?

Why wouldn't a built 4G? You guys rarely build your bottom end so I suppose that's why people keep the revs down.

scheides
01-12-2011, 01:06 PM
Heh all I meant was for this initial tune I'm gonna gun for about 25-26psi, see what it does with some timing and then go from there. If it responds super awesome then yes I'll be tempted to bump it up to 28 or so and push it a bit to see what it does, but at this point I just want a good solid base tune on there for daily abuse and then depending on what I do in the spring I'll turn up the wick a bit.

Why wouldn't a built 4G? You guys rarely build your bottom end so I suppose that's why people keep the revs down.

The head dynamics on the 4G63 get worse and worse the older ones you get. It's way more common, to get good torque and then peak power at 6500-7000rpm or so, then fall off. Unless of course you have a big turbo with a big hotside.