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URV8SUX
04-07-2012, 05:36 PM
New parts + boost by gear (launch) = :)
Boost by MPH is king!!!!!!!!!!
Looks good John hope you get all your parts on time.
CornFed2.4
04-11-2012, 10:44 PM
I mentioned something about your permatorque failures in a diffrent thread. The guy was having the same issues as you. So I mentioned you were gonna try the titan copper one and he said
We tried the Titan, didnt like it :notgood: The power was down from what it has done before at the same boost but the run was ended at 8500 vs. the ~9700 we normally rev it to. Should make more, no problem...
Yes it was the Permatorque POS, this is the 2nd time we have had issues with it as well. We are going back to Mitsu MLS with o-rings in the head.
The head repairs are already done and the o-ringing should be done today or tomorrow. Hoping the weather holds but it looks like rain for this sundays IFO. :banghead:
Just thought Id let ya know what someone elses opinion was with the same issues as yours.
Good luck this year
Speedfreak
04-11-2012, 11:25 PM
O-ringing and the Copper would be how I'd use a copper. Just a thought.
Pushit2.0
04-12-2012, 06:41 AM
The ICS titan gasket has an inbeded o ring around the cylinders. If it does not work I am back to were I was last year. Then I turn the power down.
95talonracer
04-12-2012, 09:25 PM
I tryed an ICS titan and everything held except the seal in one of the coolant passages where it slowly dripped coolant out of the head surface. That happened regardless if it was just sitting idling, or under full boost so it was not related to leaking from combustion area. Combustion sealed great but the RTV type seals didnt really look the best even when it was new out of the package that are around the coolant and oil passages.
Pushit2.0
04-12-2012, 09:59 PM
Copper spray on a copper gasket, that's crazy talk.
If it looks like an issue it will get sprayed, I ant scared.
santa
04-15-2012, 06:43 PM
O-ringing and the Copper would be how I'd use a copper. Just a thought. Mines o-ringed with ss wire, and a permatorque gasket, never had a issue since I did that.
Pushit2.0
05-12-2012, 03:29 AM
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Thank you CP/Carrillo for looking over the old parts, and cutting up the new set of pistons for the year.
The new pistons have a little different out shape, to help piston stability, and they now have 6 gas ports for the top ring, and they added polishing to the final steps of machine work.
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So a quick run down of the new parts for 2012:
MAP stage 5 head with SI 1mm over nitrite coated SS intake and exhaust valves, Crower springs and titanium retainers with new Ferrea locks, the retainers are 1/4 of the weight of the old chrome moly ones we had in the head the last few years.
We ended up with the Titan SCE copper gasket (not the ICS one, thank goodness), and the block is at MAP to get o ring groves cut into the deck surface. the head gasket will be coated with copper spray and torqued down with the new MAP ultimate duty L19 head studs. We also picked up all new timing belt components, and a Gates blue racing belt and will use the same Crower 288/288 cams and Crower cam gears as the last few years.
We also have a new set of Hoosier QTP's for the track this year, they are 26" x 9.5" x 15". From what I have read they are the C07 Hoosier compound, so a little harder then the full Hoosier slick option which uses the D06 compound and sized in at 26 x 8 x 15, which is section width vs tread width, both come in at a section width in the 9.5" range and tread width of 8".
I have read the QTP tires will be more consistent and last a little longer, and with no burn out put the car in the 1.5 60' range, and any one that knows silly 1/4 mile math.... I am just saying.
With the bigger tire diameter we gain 10% in each gear, which is good because on the record run last year the car crossed the line at BIR at almost 9800 rpm in 4th gear, so the new tires put the car at a top speed in 4th at about 175 mph (est for 2012), vs 162 mph (est for 2011).
So when we up the boost to 46-48psi and spray a 50-75 shot of nitrous, if the tranny holds at all, which the AEM will control and limit boost in 1st gear, we might see some series shit.
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Here are some end of the year pics (2011) of the car driving down to the MAP fall dyno day, and driving up to Elk River for a car show at Broadway Bar and Grill. And prof that it did run and drive around, I estimate we ended up putting about 1500 miles on the car last year.
So believe it or not we do have more plans for the car in the works, this is not the end all goal, and part of me wishes it was the end all goal....
Where could one go from here.... well I will say a full round tube chassis, solid rear end, AWD, and retaining the Saloon theme are not out of my thoughts.
I am thinking late this year/next year the car will be 25.5 certified and have all the goods to push that chassis certification.
~John
PS for the ones that may not know, a 25.5 chassis in NHRA is good for a 7.50 ET@180mph.
And a quick thanks to all my sponsors, and there are a few new ones this year: Modern Automotive Performance, Josh with CTS tuning, Ryan, Kyle, CP Pistons, Carrillo rods, Karl Ramm, KRAMM-LOX, Paul, Chuck at HTM, Jacks Trans.
Mark Leasure
05-12-2012, 08:29 AM
You're an animal! It will be fun to see this in action for the MAP event. Nice slicks, should free up some unsprung weight too. Good luck with the assembly/build.
turbotalon1g
05-12-2012, 09:12 AM
Good luck this year.
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