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SBR INC
05-14-2007, 03:32 PM
I'm going to chime in here as everyone else sees fit to do so.

I have only had one transaction with SBR and that was the very 1st thing I ever bought for my dsm, a boost gauge and a MBC. I will not do business with them again because of all the negative things I hear about them. That may sound like an ignorant act but at the same time it makes perfect sense because there are allot of other vendors out there with little or no negative rep.

There is no other dsm related company out there with as much negative publicity as SBR. It feels like everyday i log onto talk or tuners or link there is someone criticizing or complaining about another SBR product or service and everyone that replies scolds them for using your company, how can you fix something that?

Not to be repetitive but your company sucks. I refer anyone who asks me about anything dsm related simply to steer clear of SBR instead of referring them to a specific vendor, not only have I said this many times I have been told this many times.

If you will not do business with us becuase of what you "hear", that is fine.

How was your transaction with us?

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

SBR INC
05-14-2007, 03:36 PM
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No - no - no.

You are confusing Joe with Chance.

That's why he is "Fat Chance".

Mike Huml
SBR Inc.

x-pride
05-14-2007, 04:26 PM
Yep, I read the whole thing from start to finish. It's been a real long day at work after reading that. Anyways, the comment good points, but my name does not do justice, what does that mean? It's a damn screen name!

I agree about how people present themselves but the internet is so hard to read. How would you take it if you where going to a forum to try doing good and you where bashed? If I called your cas a pos you would get defensive.

Sure you shouldn't piss off customers and I agree there, but you also have to see both sides of the picture. I am not a SBR groupie or anything, I just wanted to point out some good things I noticed about them when I got my order.

Either way I just made a name here to show that I do have a good story from SBR and I will continue to buy from them. Good luck with all of this Mike and crew.

Shady Screen Name. I have been in customer service for a long time and one thing I learned was the customer is always right. Not the other way around. I would never ever tell a customer I was going to punch them in the face or show how macho I am. Every thread I read about SBR always turn out this way. Makes me really want to deal with SBR. After reading there comments puts negative thouhgts in my head. I am only judging from what they post and nothing more. Next time try mail ordering your product and give us the results. As for right now I have no beef with you or SBR. So, lets keep it that way.

1QUICK4
05-14-2007, 05:05 PM
I have heard a few good things about SBR but many more bad than good. I thought about ordering up some parts a while back but from what I've heard it's hit or miss, kinda like.
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SBR Joe
05-14-2007, 05:09 PM
Shady Screen Name. I have been in customer service for a long time and one thing I learned was the customer is always right. Not the other way around. I would never ever tell a customer I was going to punch them in the face or show how macho I am. Every thread I read about SBR always turn out this way. Makes me really want to deal with SBR. After reading there comments puts negative thouhgts in my head. I am only judging from what they post and nothing more. Next time try mail ordering your product and give us the results. As for right now I have no beef with you or SBR. So, lets keep it that way.


Understandable...but in our defense...we were not the first ones to initiate the negative comments. like Korupt said, if you were called a POS, youd get defensive too. We always appreciate the positive comments, it just seems like everyone wants to jump on the flame wagon...its alot easier to say bad things when everyone else is, than to stand up and say good things.


Joe
SBR

slowdsm2
05-14-2007, 05:30 PM
its alot easier to say bad things when everyone else is, than to stand up and say good things.

It would be easier if there weren't so many people with "bad" experiences.

SBR has no one to blame but themselves for the "bad" press.

Remember, a happy customer might tell 10 people but an unhappy customer will tell EVERYONE.

The percentage of "unhappy" customers may be small in comparison to the total number of customers but it's not how many issues you have... it's how most of those with "issues" have been treated.

The motto of the day... "friends don't let friends buy from SBR".

Maybe you guys should follow the well proven path of recovery... close the doors and open up under a new name.

SBR Joe
05-14-2007, 05:56 PM
It would be easier if there weren't so many people with "bad" experiences.

SBR has no one to blame but themselves for the "bad" press.

Remember, a happy customer might tell 10 people but an unhappy customer will tell EVERYONE.

The percentage of "unhappy" customers may be small in comparison to the total number of customers but it's not how many issues you have... it's how most of those with "issues" have been treated.

The motto of the day... "friends don't let friends buy from SBR".

Maybe you guys should follow the well proven path of recovery... close the doors and open up under a new name.


ok well heres some food for thought...going by wht you said, if we had 3 customers that had a bad experience and told EVERYONE...for arguments sake well say 20 ppl each, thats 60 ppl that dont like SBR, but only 3 actually did business with...if there were 5 ppl that bought and had a good experience and told the 10 each, thats 50 ppl that heard good. You have a bad experience with 2 less ppl and 10 more hear bad than good....what are we supposed to do? Ya we mess up, and noone out there is perfect. Especialy when a company has changed employees and changed so many things in such a short period of time, things arent going to be as consistent. A company cant really get into a rythym when everythings being changed so much. As of right now, were dealing with things from the past...granite we are trying to make things right for the future but when ppl wont stop living in the past we cant really change their perceptions.


Joe
SBR

slowdsm2
05-14-2007, 06:07 PM
ok well heres some food for thought...going by wht you said, if we had 3 customers that had a bad experience and told EVERYONE...for arguments sake well say 20 ppl each, thats 60 ppl that dont like SBR, but only 3 actually did business with...if there were 5 ppl that bought and had a good experience and told the 10 each, thats 50 ppl that heard good. You have a bad experience with 2 less ppl and 10 more hear bad than good....what are we supposed to do? Ya we mess up, and noone out there is perfect. Especialy when a company has changed employees and changed so many things in such a short period of time, things arent going to be as consistent. A company cant really get into a rythym when everythings being changed so much. As of right now, were dealing with things from the past...granite we are trying to make things right for the future but when ppl wont stop living in the past we cant really change their perceptions.


Joe
SBR

What are you supposed to do?

Well, let's see... you could start by evaluating the "cost" of an unhappy customer. Instead of saying something like "tough, we shipped it" when someone calls about a missing part... perhaps you might consider just sending a replacement part.

Own up to your mistakes and stop charging people "Fees" when they want to return the part because what you shipped was not what was ordered.

People don't accept passing the buck to former/new employees for mistakes.

The management of SBR is the same as it always has been, and attitudes towards customer service come from the top down.

SBR Joe
05-14-2007, 06:21 PM
What are you supposed to do?

Well, let's see... you could start by evaluating the "cost" of an unhappy customer. Instead of saying something like "tough, we shipped it" when someone calls about a missing part... perhaps you might consider just sending a replacement part.

Own up to your mistakes and stop charging people "Fees" when they want to return the part because what you shipped was not what was ordered.

People don't accept passing the buck to former/new employees for mistakes.

The management of SBR is the same as it always has been, and attitudes towards customer service come from the top down.


There is no "fee" that incurs when it was a mistake on our part, if a customer is online and orders teh wrong part and sends it back then yes, because the customer is the one that chose the wrong thing, there is a fee unless they want to exchange it for teh correct one. But it has happed quite a few times, if a customer wants one thing and we send him the wrong thing, WE issue a call tag and pick it up on our dime and send them the correct one. If the customer either ordered teh wrong thing online or ordered something and cancelled it, theres gonna be a fee because if we have to order it from a vendor and we cancel it due to teh customer cancelling, we have to pay a fee, thus the cancellation fee. And if im not mistaken it says that online. Were not the only company out there that does this in case you didnt know.

Joe
SBR

slowdsm2
05-14-2007, 06:27 PM
There is no "fee" that incurs when it was a mistake on our part

There are threads on multiple forums that say otherwise.