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4seasons69
06-26-2012, 01:28 AM
Well as some of you know I bought swiftys talon and since most of you already kinda know the car I wont go into too much detail about it other than what is currently going on with it and what I'm doing to it.

I bought the car figuring It I would be pretty set. It just needed to be tuned for new injectors and I'd have an awesome car to putz around in this summer. Well with the way my luck goes I'm about 90 percent sure something went wrong with the #3 injector (i'm going to have them bench tested to verify) and the cylinder pretty much ate it's self. they were brand new injectors too. I removed the cylinder head to inspect the damage. the cylinder head and piston were quite melted in cylinder 3 and one of the intake valves broke or melted off and did a number on the cylinder wall in cyl3.

Ok where I'm sitting now for the cylinder head. I have a good core to have my parts swapped into and it will need new valves for cyl 3 and it will have to be machined for the over sized valves. I'm debating whether or not to have it ported and polished too.


As for the block I'm not sure if I can get away with just honing it out so I'm going to pull the block and bring it someplace (not sure where yet) to have it checked out and see what the best route to go with it is. Idk if you can have a 4g63 sleeved or if it's just better to bore it out and go with over sized pistons. I would like to reuse as many of the parts as I can since all the rods look good and 3 of the pistons should be reusable. In regarding the block if anybody who has some experience with engine building as any advice please feel free to chime in. It will be greatly appreciated

and then there is the turbo. a bunch of metal went through the exhaust and dinged up the turbine wheel pretty bad so it will at least need a new exhaust wheel and a rebuild. depending on what ends up happening with the block I might look into upgrading to a billet version of the gt4294 or look into a gt4202/gtx4202

Sorry this is such a long post but that is kind of the short version lol

4seasons69
06-26-2012, 01:45 AM
Here are some pictures of the carnage

CornFed2.4
06-26-2012, 03:40 AM
Congrats on the new purchase! Perhaps maybe it will see the track now. Lol

As far as a place to bring it to get looked over. Motors by gosh is a good place. There located right next to DB.

Are those the FIC 2150s? I've heard they were having issues but I can't remember what the issues were.

Good luck with the car

4seasons69
06-26-2012, 08:03 AM
Congrats on the new purchase! Perhaps maybe it will see the track now. Lol

As far as a place to bring it to get looked over. Motors by gosh is a good place. There located right next to DB.

Are those the FIC 2150s? I've heard they were having issues but I can't remember what the issues were.

Good luck with the car

It will see the track eventually lol but I just hope to get her back on the road sometime this summer but we'll see I guess. Yes they are fic 2150s. I'll have to look into what kind of issues they're having with them

CornFed2.4
06-26-2012, 09:51 AM
All I could fibd for failures doing a quick goggle search was that of storage. If they were not stored properly and cleaned water could get in causing irreversible failure.

Shane@DBPerformance
06-26-2012, 10:35 AM
Could have dropped a valve or broke a valve and have all that happen too.

4seasons69
06-26-2012, 11:13 AM
All I could fibd for failures doing a quick goggle search was that of storage. If they were not stored properly and cleaned water could get in causing irreversible failure.

thats good to know. Im not sure if they were put in last fall or this spring but I know he got them from someone on here brand new unopened in the box.

Could have dropped a valve or broke a valve and have all that happen too.

That would make sense too. I guess I was leaning towards the injectors cause after it came off the dyno it was never beat on and I was just cruising when it happened. Im also leaning towards the injectors cause if you look at the picture of them you can see that 3 are starting to get dirty from the E85 and one still looks brand new. The one that still looks new was the one in the cylinder thats messed up and since its still so clean (I could be wrong) I would assume it wasn't flowing enough fuel. Im going to get them bench tested asap so I know whether or not the injectors are good

4seasons69
08-03-2012, 03:03 PM
Here's a little update of where things are sitting right now. I finally was able to get the injectors bench tested and they tested good. The flow and pattern are basically identical on all of them. So it's looking like its just a broken valve that's the culprit.

The shortblock is up at MAP right now being built. Had to get a new block, front cover, then we're putting different pistons in it (wiseco hd's), we're reusing my crank and rods, and putting a main girdle in it too.

It will still probably be a few weeks until I get it back then the head will be going to the head shop.

goodhart
08-04-2012, 12:22 AM
Ouch. Sucks it caused so much carnage. :(

turbotalon1g
08-04-2012, 06:35 AM
Ouch. Sucks it caused so much carnage. :(

X2. I'd cry.