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Matt D.
09-09-2009, 04:49 PM
People are finally thinking for themselves, showing up in droves to town hall meetings showing their dislike of the proposed health care plan, and you have the audacity to think that it is entirely the media's doing for changing the way people think? Have you seen any video from these town hall meetings? The people that are supposedly helping run this country hardly know anything about the reform, and some of them even have the guts to admit that they are going to support it regardless of what people want because they believe it is the right thing to do even if it costs them reelection.

Don't know what I'm talking about? Watch these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVCdz2507u8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Bpshk5nX0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRRg7T6vcB4
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2009/aug/16/video-rep-massa-i-will-vote-against-interests-my-d/

Ordinary people standing up for what they believe in. Don't tell me this is all the doing of conservatives. There are just as many democrats as there are republicans against this whole thing. It's funny how standing up against Obama magically makes you a conservative. Seems like childish name calling to me. Check out my voting record to see how un-conservative I am.

Gotta love Reagan predicting the future...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

Now, why is our current health care so bad? Those of us that work hard and have jobs have health care. If you don't work you have to buy it elsewhere. Saying it's not available to everyone is a lie, anyone can get it. After high school I was working but didn't have health care, and since I wasn't a student at the time I couldn't be covered under my parents. I was injured and ended up signing up for some simple health care through the state to help offset some of the costs. It was pretty cheap and was easy to do.

Now that I'm older, have a career and my employer is covering most of my health care costs even though they sky rocketed last year. I also suffer from a chronic illness that requires constant medication and frequent hospital visits. I refill three prescriptions a month. I don't have to wait weeks on end to get an appointment. My out of pocket expense limit for hospital visits is $2000 a year which I easily meet. This is a small price to pay for the awesome care I receive in order to keep me healthy.

Oh, and Obama's approval rating is spectacular... Must be all of the closet conservatives, huh?
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

Matt D.
09-09-2009, 04:52 PM
I just want to know why employers got stuck with this whole healthcare thing. Why can't we look at something where large amounts of individuals can pool up and make choices from more plans.
I don't know what the law is about employers providing health care. Is it a choice, do they HAVE to do it, or do they do it in order to be a competitive employer?

Captian James F. Awesome
09-09-2009, 05:18 PM
I don't think any state anywhere mandates employer coverage. What's the difference if it's mandated or because of competitive advantage? They still end up having to provide it becuase that how the current system expects it to be provided.

Matt D.
09-09-2009, 05:26 PM
This just in...

WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES
Wed Sep 09 2009 17:03:37 ET

At least 44 more moderate Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record in opposition to the current health care bill in the House, Hill source claims. Likewise, at least 57 liberal Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record saying they will vote against a health care bill without a strong public option. In other words, unless multiple Democrats flip on their stated position on health care, Speaker Pelosi lacks the votes to pass a bill through the House on the strength of Democrat votes alone.

57 Liberal Democrats to vote no on a bill without a strong public option

On July 31, 2009, the Congressional Progressive Caucus sent a letter to Speaker Pelosi expressing their opposition to a weakening of the public option. The letter on behalf of 57 Progressive Democrats concludes, “In short, this agreement will result in the public, both as insurance purchasers and as taxpayers, paying ever higher rates to insurance companies. We simply cannot vote for such a proposal.” The text can be read here: http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/uploads/57%20member%20letter%20to%20PelosiWaxman%207%2030% 2009.pdf

Full text here: http://www.drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm
Democrats have majority control and can't even pass their own bills. I'm sure Tom will bitch about me linking Drudge Report and Youtube, but we are in an information age, so deal with it.

tehehodi
09-09-2009, 05:27 PM
whats health care?


i like webmd.com

continue on..............

mukapahnpy
09-09-2009, 06:54 PM
I don't know what the law is about employers providing health care. Is it a choice, do they HAVE to do it, or do they do it in order to be a competitive employer?

I'd say it is part of being a good employer. Let's say you are Mr. Gates himself. Now, since your employee's do such a fabulous job at making YOU and the stock holders money, wouldn't you want to keep them there? Wouldn't YOU want to take care of them as they are doing for you? Now, if YOU don't care, then your employee's need to weigh their options, family, health, benefits, pay, etc. etc.

Jakey
09-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Roads? Yeah ok, our crumbling national transportation infrastructure is definitely something the government can manage.

tpunx99GSX
09-09-2009, 09:26 PM
see post #2

If you have something to say, say it intelligently w/o insulting others.

Halon
09-09-2009, 10:06 PM
Why part of not agreeing with this idea automatically makes someone a Republican?

Matt D.
09-10-2009, 12:31 AM
Why part of not agreeing with this idea automatically makes someone a Republican?
That's the same question I'd like answered. It's not just this, but anything related to Obama.