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Murlo26
12-04-2014, 03:11 PM
Do you even know how rates are created? They are created by the insurance companies in a rate model that is directly attributed to the health of your companies workforce. (I worked at an insurance company and know exactly how this is calculated). If you have a startup that has 20 employees that sit in cubes and are all within the ages of 24-32, that rarely go to the doctor and are healthy individuals. you will get a MUCH lower rate than the same company with 20 employees that are in their 40s to 50s, have health issues etc. All of this is taken into account when the group rate is calculated, which is why rates are not calculated on a case by case basis, but on an averaged group basis, so that a 25 year old will have the same rate as a 60 year old at the same company.

Yes I understand this.

Are you not listening to this though, my company which is 300 people or so I think, said flat out because of the ACA we were forced to switch providers due to the providers increasing rates so much.

I guess I don't see how that isn't completely black/white.

Our rates jumped 50% in one year because of the ACA. I understand rates always go up and again, my company for 50+ years covered those increases but it was so much recently due to the ACA that they chose to pass on some of that burden to us instead of reducing our coverage so we can get the same awesome health care as keeping your employees healthy is worth it.

Kracka
12-04-2014, 03:15 PM
Talk to any health insurance broker and they'll tell you the earfuls they're getting from their clients on these extreme increases.

Murlo26
12-04-2014, 03:18 PM
Talk to any health insurance broker and they'll tell you the earfuls they're getting from their clients on these extreme increases.

Correct. Because people are getting free/subsidized healthcare, someone has to pay for it, its not "free", so we all pay for it.

I am not sure where the confusion is on this.

Halon
12-04-2014, 11:00 PM
I hope all you guys are taking full advantage and getting your papsmears and pregnancy checks done that you are forced to pay for with your coverage now.

Goat Blower
12-05-2014, 01:11 AM
I've had three abortions this week! It's free!

asshanson
12-05-2014, 02:00 AM
Does that fall under preventative care?

Murlo26
12-05-2014, 10:36 AM
Does that fall under preventative care?

I'd say yes.

1ViciousGSX
12-08-2014, 10:10 AM
There's nothing to improve. If you wanted to improve something, you'd do it to the old system. To completely dismantle that and replace it with something that costs more and provides less, is not an improvement. That's why you don't see Republicans jumping on the bandwagon for this. This is simply the same power grab the dems have been trying to do for decades, they finally succeeded and we're all left footing the bill, or I should say us middle class folks are footing the bill.

I'm glad your premiums haven't increased, you're truly a 1%'r now.

Agreed

mdost03
12-15-2014, 01:34 PM
I've had three abortions this week! It's free!

Laughed hard when I read this, lol.

AwdGSX13
12-16-2014, 01:42 PM
My healthcare costs have gone up 20% a week and my deductible doubled. It was nice that i had saved my original deductible via my HSA, but now i have to save more. The system that was in place originally worked just fine.

I have a hard time understanding why people defend this guys actions. Especially now that he has been in office for as long as he has.

The next great topic will be his immigration bill.