View Full Version : March for health care!
doublej
09-08-2009, 09:23 PM
Having died twice already I can say I'm greatfull that I had care through my company and not the goverment. People are coming here from Canada to get treated because of the wait!!! Oh I love crusing in my remix eclipse thought I would talk about cars just because.
DoubleJ
Goat Blower
09-08-2009, 11:03 PM
My wife just had a baby three weeks ago, and it couldn't have been a better experience as far as healthcare is concerned. As is every visit I've had for years and years. The system right now works perfectly well for those who work for a living and pay the costs. Could we make it less expensive for everyone? Absolutely, start by opening it up countrywide instead of just within individual states, take away regulation that says insurers have to cover abortions and all the other BS that only a very few people need, then get some real tort reform so doctors can do their job instead of waiting for the next welfare recipient to try and get rich by suing a doctor. This really isn't that hard, and to try and completely revamp a system which already works great for 95% of America is just plain stupid. If you want to pay the healthcare premiums for illegal aliens, sign right up on the dotted line. Personally, I'd rather just pay for my family's needs.
Oh, and the stuff about that he's trying to reach out to Republicans? Try opening a newspaper and read up on how Pelosi and Reid wanted to ramrod this healthcare plan through before summer session and also trying to rebuff the constitution and push it through without the proper amount of votes. Reaching out, my ass. Reaching around maybe. They're all in bed together.
BLaCk_1cE
09-08-2009, 11:37 PM
^win.
4seasons69
09-08-2009, 11:56 PM
^win.
x2.
EclipseGST
09-09-2009, 12:04 AM
x2.
x3...
and congrats on the baby Steve!
Goat Blower
09-09-2009, 12:37 AM
Why thank you. With obamacare we probably would've delivered in the bath tub with a plunger and a bottle of Scotch.
The 92 Laser
09-09-2009, 12:49 AM
Socialised healthcare will only help those who are willing to let it. To the rest of you keep your overpriced healthcare. Just dont get sick, you wont be covered.
First word: Socialised-ed+M=...........Socialism!!!!!:moon:
here is a link just in cause you need an explanation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Also Im deployed right now and it is a bitch to have anything taken care of in a timely manner when the government is running the show.
Ross
goodhart
09-09-2009, 01:08 AM
^^ Don't confuse the military with the government (i.e. the VA)
The military can't take care of shit because there is too many people that do things by-the-books instead of doing things using some common fucking sense.
s1ngletracker
09-09-2009, 02:33 AM
My wife just had a baby three weeks ago....
Only intelligent thing I've heard in this thread, couldn't have said it better myself. The QUALITY of our healthcare is actually some of the best in the world. Its our payer system that sucks, as well as just the cost of healthcare. That can be fixed without 50%+ income tax and a crappy system that the gov't tries to implement. However, it will be incremental. It'll start with a gov't payer option, and the option to use your own payer. But if some people in gov't had their way, eventually it would be the only payer... 1 payer system.
Oh, and about the Obama visiting schools thing. He's trying to push curriculum through (which the federal gov't is NOT empowered to do) that asks questions like, "In what way does President Obama inspire you?" If you can't see that as propaganda, then I'm sorry.
talonite
09-09-2009, 02:48 AM
in my opinion the health care system is fine, it just that the government isn't getting their money back due to all the state appointed healthcare programs and all the people that use these "free" healthcare programs to their advantage, which gives them a huge debt, even though tax payers are paying for it. So in all reality i feel that they used the people to screw themselves, and now they are just gonne screw it up more.
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