March for health care!

[Kracka]

So...who here is going to be paying the fine on their taxes this year?

[polishmafia]

That's a little misleading. It doesn't take into account how many people are spending money on health insurance that didn't spend any before. For instance, I can't look at that graph and say WOW internet connection prices have gone up 81%! Most of that is more people buying internet service.

Not defending obamacare at all, I just don't like how that analysis was done.

I have to agree with Andrew. That article shows that people are spending less on home phones, but a huge increase in cell phones. Well, duh, thats cause everyone is moving away from having a land line.

I work for a healthcare company, and I can say that the cost of healthcare has been going up extremely fast over the years, even before the ACA was even put into place.

[A//// Guy]

Because obese.

[tpunx99GSX]

I have to agree with Andrew. That article shows that people are spending less on home phones, but a huge increase in cell phones. Well, duh, thats cause everyone is moving away from having a land line.

I work for a healthcare company, and I can say that the cost of healthcare has been going up extremely fast over the years, even before the ACA was even put into place.

Wish the article writer would have had a special spaceship that travels across various multiverses and could tell us:
This is what the current costs of healthcare are.
Here is what would have happened had the ACA Never existed with real facts and figures.
Oh, and heres what would have been accomplished had the conservatives stopped trying to repeal it and actually did work... hey look we populated another planet, global warming was fixed, and unemployment is at 0%.

[tpunx99GSX]

BTW, another year, with no health insurance premium increases at my company, which makes now 9 years i believe. (same or better coverage).

[Kracka]

That is nice of your company to eat the increases; I've seen some doing this, and some not.

[Murlo26]

My company for the first time ever passed along the increases last year and this year they are doing more.

Last year it was like 15/paycheck (30/mo), this year costs have risen another 8% and they are giving us a new option or to basically pay double the last year costs from our paycheck (now 15/week, well 14.78).

This year we have the opportunity to do a HSA and a high deductible plan. For a single person the most I pay is $2600 out of pocket a year and can deposit tax free from my paycheck to a HSA at my bank to pay for these costs. It seems like a good option and I might do it because its only $1.25 a week in stead of 14.78. Then I will take the savings and put them into a HSA and probably more as you can do up to 3350 a year into the account. So I could just put the 2600 a year into that account and call it good.

No idea what I am doing yet.

The reality is this though, people are getting free health care who weren't before and the rest of us are footing the bill. The goverment thought a bunch of young people who don't have any costs would balance the old and their high costs which didn't happen because they don't want to sign up so they pay the fee.

So Tom, just because your company choose to eat it, which they will just give you less pay raise, less bonus etc as the money comes from somewhere, doesn't mean obama care isn't fucking the rest of us because it is.

It boils down to more distribution of wealth, plain and simple.

[asshanson]

It will be interesting to see the employer contribution to my health insurance on my W2 for 2013 vs 2014. My cost is going up $2/mo (4%) for 2015 with identical coverage.

[tpunx99GSX]

My company for the first time ever passed along the increases last year and this year they are doing more.

Last year it was like 15/paycheck (30/mo), this year costs have risen another 8% and they are giving us a new option or to basically pay double the last year costs from our paycheck (now 15/week, well 14.78).

This year we have the opportunity to do a HSA and a high deductible plan. For a single person the most I pay is $2600 out of pocket a year and can deposit tax free from my paycheck to a HSA at my bank to pay for these costs. It seems like a good option and I might do it because its only $1.25 a week in stead of 14.78. Then I will take the savings and put them into a HSA and probably more as you can do up to 3350 a year into the account. So I could just put the 2600 a year into that account and call it good.

No idea what I am doing yet.

The reality is this though, people are getting free health care who weren't before and the rest of us are footing the bill. The goverment thought a bunch of young people who don't have any costs would balance the old and their high costs which didn't happen because they don't want to sign up so they pay the fee.

So Tom, just because your company choose to eat it, which they will just give you less pay raise, less bonus etc as the money comes from somewhere, doesn't mean obama care isn't fucking the rest of us because it is.

It boils down to more distribution of wealth, plain and simple.

This is a completely moot point. Because Regardless of whether the ACA Went into effect. Premiums were already increasing at a DRAMATIC rate. It likely would have been more without the ACA Provisions.
Im just sick and tired of everyone blaming the ACA for their rate increases when the rates were already increasing prior to even talks about the ACA. You cant sit there and act like your health insurance stayed the same over the 10-15 years before the ACA was voted on because it didnt. The biggest complaint prior to the ACA was that health costs were increasing to the point it was bankrupting people. Is the new system perfect... NO, Can it be IMPROVED, yes. Are the dickhead republicans trying to IMPROVE it, NO. If they spent as much time trying to improve the damn thing than they were trying to repeal it, we would have a much better outcome for the people. But instead they are so butthurt about the fact that the Dems actually got through a piece of legislation that actually does something that they cant let it go. Its complete bullshit.

[Goat Blower]

There's nothing to improve. If you wanted to improve something, you'd do it to the old system. To completely dismantle that and replace it with something that costs more and provides less, is not an improvement. That's why you don't see Republicans jumping on the bandwagon for this. This is simply the same power grab the dems have been trying to do for decades, they finally succeeded and we're all left footing the bill, or I should say us middle class folks are footing the bill.

I'm glad your premiums haven't increased, you're truly a 1%'r now.