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tpunx99GSX
09-12-2008, 09:14 PM
Why do politics always focus on why one person WON'T make a good president instead of why someone WILL? The internet is full of links slamming both candidates...who cares?
I totally agree. but when one camp is making a campaign of their biography and not speaking on how they plan on getting us out of this place we are in, or their views on everything, how can we not focus on why they would not be a great president. Its like Matt Damon said, theres a 1 and 3 chance that john mccain will not survive his first term. So we as american people need to focus on both of them. Notice how Biden isnt getting a lot of press or major attacks on him.. its because he has a freakin awesome track record and no one wants to mess with him. At least if Barak were to die in office we know that we would have someone that we could feel confident that would be able to run the office.

xveganxcowboyx
09-12-2008, 09:16 PM
Have fun with your two party system.


+1 Change does not come from the entrenched Republican and Democratic parties. I don't care if it's Obama or McCain claiming it.

tpunx99GSX
09-12-2008, 09:18 PM
Take your own advice. Have fun with your two party system.
Theres such thing as being realistic. The only two parties that have a decent chance for president is the two we are argueing over. If the independent parties were to come up with a strong candidate and work for a full 4 years gaining support, i would care what that candidate thought, but its just not a reality right now. Believe me, when Nader ran, i supported him, but in todays current society it is a two party system. Unfortunatly.

Speedfreak
09-12-2008, 09:22 PM
Take your own advice. Have fun with your two party system.

I understand what you are saying, but in the end, no matter if you vote for Ron Paul(I like him) or not, it comes down to these two parties(realistically). At that point, I say vote for the lessor evil(politics making everyone evil..). I don't mean to downplay what you and others are doing and believe in, but it just seems like a wasted vote(specially in this very important election). Thoughts? Or care to make someone like me understand the rational? Not meant to be disrespectful, truly want to know.

Matt D.
09-12-2008, 10:21 PM
I understand what you are saying, but in the end, no matter if you vote for Ron Paul(I like him) or not, it comes down to these two parties(realistically). At that point, I say vote for the lessor evil(politics making everyone evil..). I don't mean to downplay what you and others are doing and believe in, but it just seems like a wasted vote(specially in this very important election). Thoughts? Or care to make someone like me understand the rational? Not meant to be disrespectful, truly want to know.
Then I will place a vote with a mark next to McCain. No, not a vote for McCain, but a vote against Obama.

Speedfreak
09-12-2008, 10:58 PM
Then I will place a vote with a mark next to McCain. No, not a vote for McCain, but a vote against Obama.

OK, thats fine, but that really wasn't my question. I thought maybe you were part of the Ron Paul/Independent contingent that had a reason for voting for neither party and only for Ron Paul or whoever Independent is running. So was curious the basis or plan or thought process behind it.. Apparently not though.

JET
09-12-2008, 11:31 PM
If the independants get a certain percentage of the votes (4%?) then they will get funding in the next election. Right now none of them get a high enough percentage to do that.

Everyone is screaming about change, yes things in the economy need to change, but change can be either good or bad. Is Obama good change or bad change? That is something you have to decide. The current economy was not caused by the president, it was brought about because we are all cheap asses. We buy the cheapest shit possible and send all of our money to China, India and other poor countries. How can our economy be strong if we send all of our money overseas? It doesn't matter if it was a Democrat or Republican in the oval office, WE caused this. Who helped the most? NAFTA, that was Clinton's doing for you the young ones.

I heavily agree that we need to get out of the 2 party system to bring REAL change about, but it doesn't have the momentum yet to do that. Obama is just SO far left, that he is scary. McCain is pretty far left for a republican, so he is pretty middle of the road. I loved Ron Paul, but it just isn't going to happen this year. The future is looking scary no matter who wins this one.

tpunx99GSX
09-13-2008, 12:55 AM
Did any of you catch Real Time tonight?
The republican on there was a complete retard. And Bill Maher really called him out on the point where this Wall Street Journal tried to tell Bill that "No one really knows what the Bush Doctrine is..." Bill then cut him off calling him a Cynic, He was trying to play off the fact that not everyone should know what the bush doctrine is and that hes trying to push votes for the less intelligent and poor people.
I have this main thought about Palin then im probably (maybe) going to stop looking to bash her... (at least until the vice presidential debate).
If a person running for the second highest position in America, Does not know the MAJOR policies that she will need to abide by and know, SHE SHOULD NOT BE UP FOR THE POSITION!!! All of you McCain supporters, How can you sit there and support this woman, I would like to think that the majority of you Currently 15 people know better then to support someone who doesnt know the policies that govern this country.
I will proudly support Obama over McCain, Its better to support someone who is looking for change, Even if he doesnt follow through, it will make America want it more, and getting it in Americas heads is much better then brushing if off and not wanting to change anything. McCain and Palin Support everything that Bush has done, and i cant let that fly. Sorry NO WAY NOT AGAIN.
It pisses me off that America can be so stupid.

john
09-13-2008, 02:06 AM
Why do politics always focus on why one person WON'T make a good president instead of why someone WILL? The internet is full of links slamming both candidates...who cares?


I will ask the question then. Why will Palin make a good VP or possible president??

Onefast99gsx
09-13-2008, 02:32 AM
The bottom line is that this country needs CHANGE. If you like the way the economoy is, the way government is run currently, the things Bush does like starting a war based on false reports, etc.. then vote for McCain. If you're willing to take a chance and vote for a possible change in our future then go with Obama. I was born in '70. I know what the good times were like. Maybe many of you that were born in the mid to late '80's feel like things were always shitty but they weren't. It's gotten so bad that I'm glad i'm not young. In my early years, we didn't have to worry about someone coming into our school and shooting people up. Something is wrong out there.

McCain has voted along with Bush 100% of the time in 2008, 95% in 2007.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/mccain-voted-with-bush-10_n_103718.html

There's no guarantees no matter who you vote for. But I like the priorities of Obama vs. McCain.