I just want to take a quick poll...

[Kracka]

From another forum, thought it was funny. Obama's plan in action:

"Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence. When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight. I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful. At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application."
This is great! People are in for a rude awakening when they see this economic plan actually put into practice!

[Febo]

I still havent read anywhere yet that says he is litterally taking rich peoples money and giving it to the poor. Hes just making the rich pay more for being rich. and its only a matter of less than 10% increase. I dunno. I wanna find all these websites that claim this stuff, but I guess thats what happens when you search non partisan sites.

[mdost03]

I still havent read anywhere yet that says he is litterally taking rich peoples money and giving it to the poor. Hes just making the rich pay more for being rich. and its only a matter of less than 10% increase. I dunno. I wanna find all these websites that claim this stuff, but I guess thats what happens when you search non partisan sites.

How is that right though? Even if it was a flat percent tax for everyone, the rich would pay more. How is it fair to them that they have to pay a percent increase just because they are successful?

[merkzu]

I have to agree with slowboy right now. You guys earlier up on this page are blaming a man who isnt even president. If anything you should all be bashing the rock brained idiot who is sitting in the big chair right now. Hes the one who has effed this economy by out sourcing jobs, improper tax cuts, and non govt regulation of the health care system which has rocked employers who want to offer benifits, and has rocked people dependant on medicine. Everyone says trickle down economics is the way to go, the only problem with a trickle is it only takes one stone to stop it and have it pool.

I'm not a big Bush fan, but can you explain what jobs Bush outsourced, or why outsourcing has effed the economy? If I wanted to start a gig selling ethanol gauges and had the guys in Belgrade making them for me, am I effing the economy? Should the government step in and say I can't do that?

What improper tax cuts were made, and how did they eff the economy? Can you explain how the government removing capital from private businesses and consumers improves an economy?

What non gov regulation in healthcare has rocked employers? How has government regulation made health care cheaper? Do you think it would be cheaper if competition was encouraged instead of restricted?

Have you thought about any of these questions?

The economy is mostly screwed because of the housing market collapse, and Bush had pretty much nothing to do with it. Maybe you should look into who the politicians were that encouraged subprime lending and who was involved at Freddie/Fannie. As a hint you will find a lot of "D"s

I'm not blaming Obama (tho his stint as a lawyer representing ACORN is pretty bad), but you sound like a lot of Bush haters I know that just kind of repeat what they hear

[Febo]

While I may not agree to taxing certain good wealthy people and businesses, I have to look at alot of the companies and individuals who have cut jobs, pay, and benefits to save money, while not taking pay cuts, themselves, or increasing their salary. And just like everything else in life, a few wreck the many. So this is the sad reality you must face to be wealthy. Just like everyone assumes that since your unemployed your lazy and therefore dont deserve welfare, or just because your a single mom who is on welfare, that you are milking the system, rather then you fell on hard times. Generalization is the price we all must pay.

Ill start searcing merkuz, but a couple quick responses, how is outsourcing good for the economy when you are robbing jobs from americans who need those jobs to live and provide for their familys. Also, health care has shown to milk the system. Especially the pharmacuticals they found out they can raise prices, and still stay in competition and so they do so. I dunno, a couple billion in profit seems like a little too much dont ya think?

[Kracka]

When you are saving lives and allowing people to live longer (or keep children alive that even just a few years ago would have died) then yes, billions in profits is acceptable. They are supplying a great service to this world and deserve to be rewarded for it. If they were not rewarded for it, do you think they'd being doing it?

[Halon]

My g/f sees day in and day out, the failures of the current government ran health care system. It's sad how the ones that know how to abuse it totally ruin it for the elderly and others who really do need help that don't know how to abuse it. I don't think the government could effectively run an even larger and more involved health care plan when they still need to get a better handle on the current one.

[Febo]

When you are saving lives and allowing people to live longer (or keep children alive that even just a few years ago would have died) then yes, billions in profits is acceptable. They are supplying a great service to this world and deserve to be rewarded for it. If they were not rewarded for it, do you think they'd being doing it?


Its a shame that these medicines can bankrupt someone, or be too expensive to afford, because some CEO wants a 5th house on his private island. But yeah... your right. Let them charge what they want. They are saving rich kids lives.......

[Halon]

Buy generics then.

[1QUICK4]

I'm sure all the research and manufaturing processes are cheap and easy for the drug manufactures. Not to mention greasing some wheels to get FDA approval