I just want to take a quick poll...

[Kracka]

And the Republican party "isn't" trying to paint a picture of Obama as a terrorist by calling him by his middle name and talking about how he is hanging out with terrorist? Right now, CNN is talking about how McCain's reputation is being ruined by the way he is running his campaign.

I don't blame them, I personally don't want some middle-eastern Muslim running this country.

[JET]

IT WASNT A DRAFT.
"The document posted and e-mailed by the McCain campaign on Tuesday night says at the end of its first full paragraph: “Lenders in these cases must recognize the loss that they’ve already suffered.”

So the government would buy the mortgages at a discounted rate, reflecting the declining value of the mortgage paper.

But when McCain reissued the document on Wednesday, that sentence was missing, to the dismay of many conservatives."


Why can't it be a draft just because it was emailed to some people? I have made a ton of procedures and formal documents, I always send them out in draft format to the parties involved to see if there is anything I should change.

Besides, why is it actually bad? He went AGAINST what the republicans wanted, you should be happy Tom!

[Kracka]

Besides, why is it actually bad? He went AGAINST what the republicans wanted, you should be happy Tom!

Tom doesn't care about that, he only cares b/c it gives him something to bitch about and point the blame finger over nothing while attempting to make McCain look bad.

[clean2g]

I don't blame them, I personally don't want some middle-eastern Muslim running this country.

1) His genealogy is not from the Middle East, Africa is not in the Middle East, last time I checked a map.
2) There's no proof he's a Muslim, and I don't appreciate that statement, being a Muslim myself. Just because I'm a Muslim doesn't mean I should be denied or disrespected if I ran for office. Yea, people think Muslims are terrorists, but that's because we've been given a bad name by some inhumane people, who claim to be Muslims. Frankly, a person's religion doesn't make a difference, and shouldn't make a difference as long as they are capable of doing the job and they don't mix their religion into it.

[Kracka]

I respect your opinions and comments; but he just has a few too many questionable things surround him for my taste. I have nothing against you, your skin color, or any religion you choose...the once or twice we met I thought you were a cool dude. I'm not denying or disrespecting Obama (or anyone else for that matter) in any way. As in all elections people are free to voice their opinions and choose the person who they feel best represents them, their opinions, morals, and ideals. I prefer it be someone with a strong political and military background to help get us out of the mess we're already in.

We have obviously gotten different info b/c I have heard he has very little "African American" in him and has openly admitted to being Muslim. Anyway, if McCain is to lose, I think I'd rather it be to Obama than Clinton!

[Speedfreak]

I don't blame them, I personally don't want some middle-eastern Muslim running this country.

1) His genealogy is not from the Middle East, Africa is not in the Middle East, last time I checked a map.
2) There's no proof he's a Muslim, and I don't appreciate that statement, being a Muslim myself. Just because I'm a Muslim doesn't mean I should be denied or disrespected if I ran for office. Yea, people think Muslims are terrorists, but that's because we've been given a bad name by some inhumane people, who claim to be Muslims. Frankly, a person's religion doesn't make a difference, and shouldn't make a difference as long as they are capable of doing the job and they don't mix their religion into it.

WoW, Chris, I have seen that undertone in your comments, but that is just wrong. Like clean2g, I am also a Muslim. I find it VERY weird that somehow in this election people are/can simply say he might be a Muslim and that somehow automatically eliminates him as a candidate. If you believe all Muslims are terrorists, you are blind to the other 1 BILLION Muslims that are normal God fearing people who are very decent human beings. The fact that you and others try to point at his name, and where his father was from as a negative is truly a sad point in American history. Obama was born in HI.. he is an American, that's it. He also happens to be a Christian, so that should be good enough for all the Americans who do not like Muslims.

This election year is very sad to watch from a Muslim point of view. We now all know what people think of us.

[1QUICK4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWakF5XgYM

:lol:

[Kracka]

If anyone on this board is convinced that I think any less of them because of skin color or religion then so be it, but I can assure you right now that is not the case. I've known you for a long time Mo and think you're a great guy and have nothing at all against you. I'm free to have my opinions and vote for who I want for the reasons I want. This supposed connection with William Ayers (among many other things) is just a little too questionable for my comfort.

[Speedfreak]

If anyone on this board is convinced that I think any less of them because of skin color or religion then so be it, but I can assure you right now that is not the case. I've known you for a long time Mo and think you're a great guy and have nothing at all against you.

Good to hear, thanks for the clarification.

I dropped out of this thread a while ago because these kinds(political) of conversations never go anywhere, but when Religion(my religion) gets thrown out there as a purely negative thing, I have to honestly say it's offensive.

And like all highly political subjects, it's all propaganda.. going both way's.. It's the biggest game in the world, and whatever will work to change peoples minds is what will be spewed as fact.. when in fact it's all taken out of context and misconstrued(again, on both sides of the game).

[Kracka]

I agree with you regarding this thread Mo...I should have just stayed out of it b/c they do never go anywhere [good] or accomplish anything other than upsetting people! Politics, religion, and race are already very touchy subjects on their own and when combined like this it just becomes a mess b/c everyone has their own strong opinions and its so easy to take what someone says incorrectly (especially on the internet) which leads to even worse things. With all this said, I'm going to bow out of this thread :)