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scheides
04-29-2009, 11:27 AM
Don't be ghey, that's shane demonstrating his MS Paint skylz ;)

asshanson
04-29-2009, 11:29 AM
Ah, I see you took the nasioc stats of DJ reads 21-22% higher than DD. Just personal experience I guess, I don't think we've seen quite that high between our two dynos here in Minneapolis. But another good reference.

+1 for a real dyno sheet!

wheelhop
04-29-2009, 11:34 AM
Don't be ghey, that's shane demonstrating his MS Paint skylz ;)

It looked funny. Why I asked which brand dyno :spin: . . .

Shane@DBPerformance
04-29-2009, 01:41 PM
A DJ in SAE correction in AWD mode seems to around 15%-17% higher than our Dyno Dynamics. It's around 17%-20% for a DJ in STD mode depending on weather conditions. I am only talking AWD cars though. And it still depends on weather, strapping, how each dyno is run, etc.

There is a big difference in the math between saying X reads 18% higher than Y compared to saying Y is 18% lower than X. For example 550cc injectors are 22% bigger than 450cc, but 450cc are 18% smaller than 550cc.

FattyBoomBatty
04-29-2009, 02:01 PM
I was misinformed about the AWD vs. 2WD thing previously, but I think that's because I always talked to you crazy evo and dsm people!

wheelhop
04-29-2009, 03:32 PM
There is a big difference in the math between saying X reads 18% higher than Y compared to saying Y is 18% lower than X. For example 550cc injectors are 22% bigger than 450cc, but 450cc are 18% smaller than 550cc.
Hence, my link to the nasioc dyno results showing that a DD reads about 18% lower thana DJ. Not that a DJ reads 18% higher :) .

If a typical DJ reads 18% higher than your DD, then you're DD could read a little higher than other typical DDs. No big deal. Just an observation. All dydnos even of the same brand will read different by +/-2 to 3%

Shane@DBPerformance
04-29-2009, 03:52 PM
I wouldn't try to compare a Subaru as directly though with the way that those ECUs control timing, they aren't the most consistant cars from one run to the next.

The numbers from a DD will depend on inertia settings and load settings and the numbers from a DJ will depend on the correction used SAE, STD, DIN, Uncorrected, etc and the smoothing factor used.

wheelhop
04-29-2009, 03:57 PM
Ah! I know just the silhouette of the scoobie platform. Makes sense. We can all agree the difference is over 17% however you want to do it. not bad. . . If the results are REAL ;). I'd like to see that dyno sheet too. Very interested in the curve shape.

sleepydsm
04-29-2009, 10:16 PM
Ah! I know just the silhouette of the scoobie platform. Makes sense. We can all agree the difference is over 17% however you want to do it. not bad. . . If the results are REAL ;). I'd like to see that dyno sheet too. Very interested in the curve shape.

Well I emailed that guy above (Ecoli) to get my graph but no response haha. I GUESS I'll call DB just so I can get it emailed to me.

wheelhop
04-30-2009, 08:00 AM
Hey, just take a pic of your paper copies and uplaod the pics to photobucket or something. Easy enough.