Evo X?

Andrew7dg · 03-02-2007

Ok I just picked up the Sports Compact Car magazine for the New Evo X. Well it talked about the lancer however it did touch on the Evo X a little bit. I don't know.... The evo was built for the WRC. This new one isn't really. I considered the evo and subaru wrx to be rivals but now I don't see them being in the same class. What do other people think? or is this way to early to be saying this?

**JET** · 03-02-2007

The EVO has turned into more of a pavement scorcher, which is fine with me. The EVO hasn't been real competitive in WRC for a while. The smaller cars seem to do better. I think the Sti and the EVO are still in the same class though, they are still pretty similar.

AJ · 03-02-2007

WRC is Citron's baby as of late, but in reality, WRC has been based more by brand can get which driver. The new EVO X to me is more in the luxury fun without the need to add a ton of mods to make it enjoyable. It's a very possible 2nd car for us as long as Jana likes the paddle shifting.

**JET** · 03-02-2007

I am looking at one becoming my DD, bye bye Lincoln!

I will probably wait for the MR though, I hope they put the 2.4l in the MR.

AJ · 03-02-2007

My issue is if Mitsu will allow test drives and shit on the cars without going though the buying process first. Either we will replace the Prisim with that or I could try and get a good deal on trading the MS6 in on it and have it be my daily. Then we would probably replace the Prisim with a newer Corolla.

CVD · 03-03-2007

Even the Evo 8 and 9 have had little to do with their current WRC car.

JustROLLIN · 03-03-2007

I read that article as well. I believe it said they DO plan on using it for WRC. I could be wrong here, but I am fairly certain thats what I read. Mitsu is trying to revive the Evo X as a rally car. Its been weeks since I read that article though...

Pushit2.0 · 03-03-2007

I think based on: open deck aluminum block, paddle shift gear box that who knows how much power it and the clutch can handle, the turbo is now in the back of the motor, so to me the car will be very basic bolt on car. I hope the car can be modified similar to dsm's now, but I doubt it. It should be a good DD but I do not know how much aftermarket will pop up.

~John

Andrew7dg · 03-03-2007

Wow I didn't know if I was going to get ripped on putting this thread up.

It seems like the magazines right now are just ass kissing mitsubishi for redesigning it. But as it has been said, it is more for a DD now. I don't think they sold very many evos as they hoped. So then they made the evo X more for the public so that they could sell more. To me, it just seems that we are loosing many of the modern day muscle cars that are affordable. Evo has gone soft, no more supra, S3, RX-7, Skyline (which is comming out soon but it is going to turn soft as well so that it can sell to the public), MR2, Eclipse lost its AWD, camaro, firebird, Mustang is still there actually. The later 90s were a good generation of cars. These new cars have gone kind of soft.
However I can pick up all the used ones cheap

They aren't using it for the WRC because mitsubishi is done giving money to the drivers. Subaru hasn't yet. They pay their drivers with lots of parts. If any team will compete with the evo X they would have to buy their own parts and that is if it will make a good rally car. They kept the engine to only 2.0L so that they could say that it didn't loose it rally heritage.

I think they should look back on the s3 and they should have put a 6 cylinder twin turbo, or something really wild in it.

CVD · 03-03-2007

Yup, sad but true. The Japanese supercars are dead, and the real (turbo) sport compacts are dying. Now that I can finally afford a brand new sports car, I find myself digging through whats left of the 90's sports cars, hoping to find something clean and unabused.

JustROLLIN · 03-03-2007

Ah yeah, I just read that segment again and you guys are right....

"Though Mitsubishi isn't currently fielding a WRC team, it developed the EVO X to meet current FIA Group N homologation restrictions for many privateers around the world that continue to rally the Evo."

Also states the new Evo X is more Audi or Euro tuner than JDM style. Greeat, as soon as we get our USDM Evo they go and turn it into sauerkraut.

FattyBoomBatty · 03-03-2007

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Originally Posted by CVD

Yup, sad but true. The Japanese supercars are dead, and the real (turbo) sport compacts are dying. Now that I can finally afford a brand new sports car, I find myself digging through whats left of the 90's sports cars, hoping to find something clean and unabused.

Keep saving and get an exotic.

Super Bleeder!! · 03-03-2007

If i had money i'd build a kit car, like an FFR Daytona or Cobra coupe.

**Kracka** · 03-03-2007

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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0

I think based on: open deck aluminum block, paddle shift gear box that who knows how much power it and the clutch can handle, the turbo is now in the back of the motor, so to me the car will be very basic bolt on car. I hope the car can be modified similar to dsm's now, but I doubt it. It should be a good DD but I do not know how much aftermarket will pop up.

~John

This is nonsense. Its an EVO, the aftermarket will be right there to support it. SRT-4's have the turbo in the back, Audi's are no treat to work on, etc. but they all have very strong aftermarket support. A 5 (or 6) speed manual transmission will be available and I'm sure it will be a better design than the current EVO tranny (better shifting, stronger, etc.). I am sure Mitsu is well aware of who their market is and what they want, they won't make the same mistake they made with the Eclipse (financially, they can't afford to).

92EvilTalon · 03-04-2007

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

This is nonsense. Its an EVO, the aftermarket will be right there to support it. SRT-4's have the turbo in the back, Audi's are no treat to work on, etc. but they all have very strong aftermarket support. A 5 (or 6) speed manual transmission will be available and I'm sure it will be a better design than the current EVO tranny (better shifting, stronger, etc.). I am sure Mitsu is well aware of who their market is and what they want, they won't make the same mistake they made with the Eclipse (financially, they can't afford to).

I agree with Chris on this one. Mitsu I hope knows what they are doing. Granted it looks like a softer car now. But the aftermarket will flood with stuff. Also granted the 7,8, and 9's all had parts before they came state side..., but I think the 10 will pick up quick. Faster then the 3s guys.

Andrew7dg · 03-04-2007

The aftermarket support all depends how how much abuse the engine can take. The reason the 4g63 did so well is because they could take 400 hp on stock parts with very few upgrades. Thats why I fell in love with the motor. I don't know if this is because they over enginered the motor or what. This happens to be true with a lot of motors coming from the 90s. I don't think the designers knew how to build the motor, they over built it in case it failed.
Developing the motor is very different today then it was in the past. The manufactures want to cut as many corners as possible to save cost, so now they can build an engine to go to just 275 or 300 and have it very reliable, untill you try to overboost the car. The aftermarket justs depends what the new engine can handle. The RX-8 engine was supposed to be the supream rotory engine but that kind of failed when the turbo kits didn't do anything and the supercharger belt system wouldn't work with the cars pullies.

What they want to do is surpass the Evo 9. That is going to be stock to stock numbers. The X may outperform the Evo 9 however I am thinking if the 9 is modded, it is going to dominate the X.

The problem with the audience today is that everyone wants to buy something affordable that isn't going to break. Example is that toyota doesn't make the supra, mr2 anymore. Mazda did the same with the rotory engine, RX-8 isn't a popular tuner car but i definatly see a lot more RX-8 instead of RX-7s. Remember why mitsubishi changed the Eclipse platform, everyone was buying the GS and the GSXs weren't selling at all. I am wondering if mitsubishi is going the same route with the Evo, making cars for the people instead of racing.
Still too early to tell yet. I am kind of scared though.

**JET** · 03-04-2007

The aftermarket will be there, there are a lot of cars that share this series engine. There is also supposed to be a ton of room behind the engine for a big turbo (looking at the new base model). The car is getting some frills, but I don't think they are going too soft. Remember they are also coming out with a RalliArt version, this is going to be the hardcore version, it won't have all the gizmo's on it. I think Mitsu is going to do this right, we'll just have to see how the different versions come about.

Pushit2.0 · 03-05-2007

I hope you are all right, we will see.

~John

JustROLLIN · 03-05-2007

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

This is nonsense. Its an EVO, the aftermarket will be right there to support it. SRT-4's have the turbo in the back, Audi's are no treat to work on, etc. but they all have very strong aftermarket support. A 5 (or 6) speed manual transmission will be available and I'm sure it will be a better design than the current EVO tranny (better shifting, stronger, etc.). I am sure Mitsu is well aware of who their market is and what they want, they won't make the same mistake they made with the Eclipse (financially, they can't afford to).

Thats not a very accurate statement. The sales of the Eclipse GSX/GST were shattered by the sales of the newer (2000+) Eclipse. The new body style made Mitsubishi quite a bit of cash. I dont know where you heard the opposite, but its not true.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 03-05-2007

The 2000+ Eclipse also lost them a lot of money because they gave them away to every stripper that came in for the 0 down, 0 interest, and 0 payments for a year deal and end up defaulting when it actually came time to start making payments.