Election results!

[Murlo26]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Wow you can post charts of Inherited distruction. You act as if Obama got in there and Instantly spent ass loads of money. Remember, the Bank Bailout was not OBAMA, it was BUSH.

I would say it was both parties at the time..the dems wanted it too when it was passed. (the bailout)

Honestly, the whole mess started when Republicans went candy ass and started trying to play nice with democrats instead of sticking to their usual conservative methods. The problem with that is the democrats don't give shit back ever, as in they only vote/spend/think liberal, they will never be bi-partisan.

The republicans owned this week in elections because they went back to their roots...and it turn will level the playing field again.

[A//// Guy]

Yes bush did start the bank bailouts to try and turn the economy down, it helped but wasnt a cure.

Now Obamas on a spending rampage. Here is where some of his money is going:
• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $650 million for wild land fire management on forest service lands.
• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.

WTF at some of these? Like they were necessary?

Oh yea and Tom take a gander at this: http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=394

Huh.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

All of which are dwarfed by the cost of the Iraq war.

[Murlo26]

Originally Posted by ecoli

All of which are dwarfed by the cost of the Iraq war.

So true...however, I would argue (not that its a good thing) that wars are profitable sadly.

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

So true...however, I would argue (not that its a good thing) that wars are profitable sadly.

Profitable for the private sector niche companies like Blackwater and Haliburton (just an example), not for the government lol

[tpunx99GSX]

All of which are dwarfed by the cost of the Iraq war.

Of which was sheilded from public eye as to how much it actually did cost.

Originally Posted by Murlo26

So true...however, I would argue (not that its a good thing) that wars are profitable sadly.

Profitable to Whom? We spent that money to rebuild another country, and to companies that were doing a bang up job of it? ::rolls eyes::

[Murlo26]

Originally Posted by goodhart

Profitable for the private sector niche companies like Blackwater and Haliburton (just an example), not for the government lol

Never said it was profitable for the govt, lol...but lots of private sector stuff, huge profits.

Sure we rebuilt a country, but now we have cheaper gas

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

Yes bush did start the bank bailouts to try and turn the economy down, it helped but wasnt a cure.

Now Obamas on a spending rampage. Here is where some of his money is going:
• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $650 million for wild land fire management on forest service lands.
• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.

WTF at some of these? Like they were necessary?

Oh yea and Tom take a gander at this: http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=394

Huh.

by 2006 with 6 years as bush had approved over 31,000 earmarked projects. 31,000!!!!
Sorry but there just isnt enough room here to list them all.

[Kracka]

American has spoken. That is all. I'm hoping for 2 years of stalemate in which time hopefully the GOP can find a solid presidential candidate to run in 2012.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

by 2006 with 6 years as bush had approved over 31,000 earmarked projects. 31,000!!!!
Sorry but there just isnt enough room here to list them all.

FYI, Bush isn't in office any longer. Just saying.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

FYI, Bush isn't in office any longer. Just saying.

Peter was bringing up past bills, so i did as well. Sorry but just because Bush is no longer in office, does not mean what he did while in office disappears.
Have to look at the past in order to move forward.

[Murlo26]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Peter was bringing up past bills, so i did as well. Sorry but just because Bush is no longer in office, does not mean what he did while in office disappears.
Have to look at the past in order to move forward.

If only the democrats would adhere to this advice as well...

[A//// Guy]

Yea that would be nice. Cough housing collapse cause cough.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Peter was bringing up past bills, so i did as well. Sorry but just because Bush is no longer in office, does not mean what he did while in office disappears.
Have to look at the past in order to move forward.

History will repeat itself, it always does. The optimist will look ahead, the pessimist will look back. What's done is done. What matters is now and the future.

Obama has had two years to get things going and now the American people are upset and have spoken as shown by the elections. We have two more years to see what happens, it should be interesting.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Heres a nice FYI for you. Wow i cant wait for that to slam down to high job loss again.
You guys sat here and expected INSTANT freakin results. Nothing happens over night but its nice to see what can happen in two years. And this had NO.... NONE... NADA help from the Republicans.
Say good bye to your heathcare (Dropping people from having preexisting conditions, lifetime limits etc), Public Education (eliminating board of education, turning schools into a business), Medicare, Social Security, VA all can say goodbye. And if they dont raise the debt ceiling, say goodbye to the WORLD economy.
Can you guess how i feel about the Gov Now?

Hey Tom, you do realize that Bush was president until 2008, BUT Pelosi, Franks, and the Dems were in controll starting in 2006??? Right???

By your own chart, Bush was creating jobs through 2007. Can't blame Bush for something the Dems were in charge of. Looks like the down turn started after the Dems took control.

[311evo]

^ fun fact.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Hey Tom, you do realize that Bush was president until 2008, BUT Pelosi, Franks, and the Dems were in controll starting in 2006??? Right???

By your own chart, Bush was creating jobs through 2007. Can't blame Bush for something the Dems were in charge of. Looks like the down turn started after the Dems took control.

Get your facts straight. both of you.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3074422AAQ5qgC

President Obama took office January 20th 2009....
Also, Pelosi, franks and the dems took control in 2007.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Also, Pelosi, franks and the dems took control in 2007.

What does it matter? That graph starts at 2008. The whole thing seems cyclical to me.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

What does it matter? That graph starts at 2008. The whole thing seems cyclical to me.

What does it matter?!? He just said the president was sworn in a year before he was... as well as the Democrats taking control a YEAR before they were.
The graph shows the transitional year, as in, A year before he started and a year after he started.
And the whole thing being cyclical is just stupid matt, you know better.

[tpunx99GSX]

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/