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Old 04-28-2010   #521
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Whats wrong with the permatorque's? I have yet to hear of one failing yet. (Except on Rau's car.)
Yeah, and Rau's car could break God.
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!

when I got the mls for alys car it was around 120 with the discount now. so I am done with them and just will get the perma's from craig since I get his price on it.
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Old 04-28-2010   #523
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!

MAP doesn't have the MLS in stock, and even so, it's $130. It looks like I'll be going with the permatorque.
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Old 04-28-2010   #524
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!

Call Craig, do work.
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!

Get me a cost. Otherwise, I'll just do it through MAP.
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I'm not at work all day today, that's why I said to call Craig. Or call the store, 763-566-1274.
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Yeah, and Rau's car could break Chuck Norris.
Fixed.

Mitsu MLS with no spray gets my vote. Evo's stock head gasket is MLS and none of us recently have used copper spray and they've held just fine.
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Old 04-28-2010   #528
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Whats wrong with the permatorque's? I have yet to hear of one failing yet. (Except on Rau's car.)
Do you ever read what people write or just part of it? lol I never said anything about permatorque's being bad.
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!

anyone copperspray permatorques? I hear it's in a sealed package that is already tacky?
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Old 04-28-2010   #530
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Do you ever read what people write or just part of it? lol I never said anything about permatorque's being bad.
Whoops, I read that wrong. Thought you said fel-pro's suck.


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anyone copperspray permatorques? I hear it's in a sealed package that is already tacky?

Yep, I would never spray a PermaTorque
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I wouldn't spray a headgasket period. Just make sure both surfaces are as clean as possible. If the gasket is gonna seal, it will seal.
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If it ain't broke..why fix it?
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Old 04-28-2010   #533
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!

I am always a fan of that, and since it will be torn apart shortly, I just might do that water pipe o-ring.
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!

You can't compare the Evo MLS to the DSM one, nor the head rigidity between a DSM head and an Evo head.

I would run the Permatorque, and don't copper spray it. Copper spray is not going to do shit for holding in it 2500psi of cylinder pressure.
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For the last goddamn time. I did not reuse my fucking gasket. I got a cometic HP, but drilled out 3 of the 4 rivets, coppersprayed all 4 parts, let sit overnight, then re-assembled, put back on the car, then slapped the head on, only to need to lift it off a bit to get the washers on..THAT's where I went wrong. If I get nothing but people finger pointing, then I won't ever update this thread again, and you all can go read some other shit. No skin off my ass. Shit happens sometimes, oh well! It will be fixed when I can fix it. Big fucking deal.
Its ok swifty. I do recall the conversation but it was more of a pondering as to whether to reuse or not to. which he came to the conclusion that he would not be reusing. I am reusing mine, and i will post up the compression tester results and we can compare. But i have always reused my metal head gaskets, never taken out the rivets though that seems pretty extreme. Maybe next time ring the block and head and not have to worry about expensive head gaskets.
Speaking of which have you done a compression test?
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I am reusing mine
This thread is full of fail. I don't see the point to trying to be a cheapass and save a few bucks when it risks having the rip the head off again, buy a new gasket anyway, plus all the additional stress, headache, and downtime.
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Plus headstuds, or any studs for that matter dont like to be stretched 50 times...

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Its ok swifty. I do recall the conversation but it was more of a pondering as to whether to reuse or not to. which he came to the conclusion that he would not be reusing. I am reusing mine, and i will post up the compression tester results and we can compare. But i have always reused my metal head gaskets, never taken out the rivets though that seems pretty extreme. Maybe next time ring the block and head and not have to worry about expensive head gaskets.
Speaking of which have you done a compression test?
I just palmed face so hard I am now bleeding and partially blind. You have got to be joking. Please tell me you are.

Compression test isn't going to prove jack shit unless you absolutely fucked up the head installation or the gasket is severely messed up. When the cylinder fires it puts more pressure on the head gasket than just cranking the engine over will ever do.
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Hey guys! Good news! I just saved $130...but my car doesn't run...what a good deal!

WTB: used head gasket
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