The Gun Thread

[goodhart]

Same gun I just got, .270 Axis XP in stainless. Doesn't feel super high quality (bolt is a little sloppy) but that damn thing is pretty accurate out of the box for an inexpensive gun.



You were right about the bolt. Right where it cocks is a real tough spot, not real smooth to cycle, almost have to dismount it to get it to cycle a round through. I may have the local gunsmith take a file to the part of the bolt where the spring lever is.

[asshanson]

I wonder if that is true of all Savage rifles or just their Axis line? From what I have read they make pretty accurate guns and the accutrigger seems nice. I had never considered a .270 before, seems like a good medium sized hunting round. What does ammo cost compared to others like 30-06, .308, etc?

[JET]

.270 is just a necked down 30-06 and ammo is the same price since it is so popular. The more expensive Savage's have much smoother actions. It seems like this is intentionally sloppy so they only have to hold the tight tolerance for accuracy at the very end when the bolt engages. I don't think there is a better sub-$300 rifle out there though. Perfect for a deer hunting rifle that is going to get abused like mine :D

So, I want to get a couple of pistols. Probably a high capacity 9mm for concealed carry (not too huge like a 1911) and a 22LR semi. I would like to stay around $400 for the 9mm and $250 on the 22LR, but it isn't set in stone. What do you guys recommend? Used is ok.

[goodhart]

I like walther p22's a lot. They just feel nice. Might be able to find a used one in the $250 range

[Murlo26]

Well, I mind as well join this thread, get some more opinions...I am stopping car mods to get a Rifle of some sort (sporting I guess is the technical term I think, but really Assault Rifle).

So Friday I am going to the police department to turn in my permit to purchase papers then I am heading to Bills to do some shooting Friday night and see what they have for me to test. And see if they can order me the gun I am looking at online.

I am leaning toward the FN SCAR 16s right now. My big push to get one right now is indeed the whole ban AR's nonsense going around. I don't want to risk not ever being able to get one so I will be getting one in January.

So it seems like most of the online stuff I am seeing are full of AR fanbois. I have talked to other rifle owners and there is no doubt that the AR is a great platform but I can't imagine its the end all be all. Whenever people ask about guns like the HK416 (MR556 civilian model) or FN SCAR or FN F2000, G36, galil etc etc everyone always chimes in and says you can build a way better AR for that price. I think the AR's are great but I think the SCAR seems to be a more advanced gun that overall is quite a bit better. Is it $2500 good, maybe, maybe not. But I can't seem to find anything whatsoever negative about the SCAR besides price, maybe weight as its 7.3 lbs with no mag I think where I think AR's can get down pretty low, like 4-5 lbs.

Thoughts? Any reason not to get a SCAR? Any other guns (that aren't AR's, as I already know what I'd get if I got an AR style) I should consider.

Price is the last thing I care about, as long as its sub $2800-$3000 (that is getting way too high) because frankly I want to get the gun I really want in case this is the last time I can buy this stuff.

Thanks for any recommendations.

Sidenote, anyone know if Bill's will have a SCAR to shoot? They had two for sale, both black which isn't what I want, but I'd love to shoot one.

[tpunx99GSX]

My brother in law, has a Rock River Arms LAR-15, and LOVES it. Super Accurate, awesome AR15.

[blackawdtsi]

Good luck Murlo. Everywhere is sold out as of 2 days ago on most stuff 5.56/.223 and Glock.

Element Arms sold 300 guns yesterday alone.

[asshanson]

Price is the last thing I care about, as long as its sub $2800-$3000

Wow dude, why spend that much for a 5.56? You could get a sweet .338 lapua sniper rifle for that price! I guess it would be bolt vs semi auto, but even the M1A doesn't cost nearly that much and you could put a pistol grip stock on it if you wanted the AR look.

[Murlo26]

Wow dude, why spend that much for a 5.56? You could get a sweet .338 lapua sniper rifle for that price! I guess it would be bolt vs semi auto, but even the M1A doesn't cost nearly that much and you could put a pistol grip stock on it if you wanted the AR look.

Don't want a bolt action. The 5.56 SCAR shares 80% of the parts with the 7.62 version so I could buy a new upper and have two guns.

However, I don't care to have something as big as a .338. This gun will be used mainly for fun, range shooting, cabin fun and small game (coyote and prairie dogs). I was just saying that as a max, I don't think they cost that much. I think the 16s' are roughly 2200-2400.

And Bill's had two scars, just not the color I wanted. They are a dealer, I can just order one, they aren't going anywhere yet. I don't think anyone is buying the nicer, or I guess I should say more expensive ones. People are snatching up all the cheaper AR's in the 500-1500 range.

I was hoping for some suggestions I guess guys, maybe a gun that is really cool that I might have overlooked that is similar to an AR or SCAR (not an AR) that I might have missed. I dunno.

[Tachyon]

Other than having a specific dollar value in mind, what's the most important thing your are trying to accomplish though your purchase, Dave?