View Full Version : 2009 Fall Dyno Day - Oct 3rd @ MAP
Mike Neal!
09-21-2009, 01:04 AM
Looks like theres only like 5 people signed up??
$65 day of or pre pay $55 seems pretty high for a dyno day.. when Im sure it would cost $65 any day of the week?? I thought Dyno days were a way to make $$ by price low to get alot of people in which would bring in more money in the end. Rather than not so many people paying full price. I remember when I had a mustang and TCS had dyno days you paid like $25-$30 for 2 or 3 pulls..
Ill be there shootin the shit tho!! :)
C3L1CA
09-21-2009, 01:09 AM
Say a car did pre-register and wasn't able to make it on the dyno, would they be screwed outa the money or coule they get a refund if they let you guys know like 24 hours before the event?
Constant_Project21
09-21-2009, 01:19 AM
$65 day of or pre pay $55 seems pretty high for a dyno day.. when Im sure it would cost $65 any day of the week?? I thought Dyno days were a way to make $$ by price low to get alot of people in which would bring in more money in the end. Rather than not so many people paying full price. I remember when I had a mustang and TCS had dyno days you paid like $25-$30 for 2 or 3 pulls..
Ill be there shootin the shit tho!! :)
Kinda what I was thinking, you brought that up the other day when ya got those o-rings from eric too.
mlomker
09-21-2009, 10:15 AM
Power mods on my Evo:
Compared to some of the guys, your mod list sounds pretty reasonable/modest. Do you know what it put down totally stock or was that your first run with it?
rose0529
09-21-2009, 10:55 AM
$65 day of or pre pay $55 seems pretty high for a dyno day.. when Im sure it would cost $65 any day of the week?? I thought Dyno days were a way to make $$ by price low to get alot of people in which would bring in more money in the end. Rather than not so many people paying full price. I remember when I had a mustang and TCS had dyno days you paid like $25-$30 for 2 or 3 pulls..
Ill be there shootin the shit tho!! :)
That is a discounted rate. MAP lists 3 dyno pulls on their website for $75. $20 off is a 26% discount.
http://www.maperformance.com/services.html
Mike Neal!
09-21-2009, 11:08 AM
That is a discounted rate. MAP lists 3 dyno pulls on their website for $75. $20 off is a 26% discount.
http://www.maperformance.com/services.html
Yeah Its cheaper but doesn't seem like as good of a deal when you have to wait for a ton of people to wait for.
A way they could do it another time maybe is Mitsustyle rents out the dyno for a day (certain amount of time) for lets say $500. The cost then gets devided among all those using the dyno so the more there is the cheaper it is down to a certain dollar amount ($30/per) then what ever extra it brings in to be over the cost of $500 goes back into the website/events??
scheides
09-21-2009, 11:19 AM
Ok, i'll see how close i get to 500 miles over the next two weeks.
Like I said, just set a goal, go for some extra fun cruises, the more stop-go traffic you can do the better. Try driving across the entire city on surface streets one night, that may not get you a ton of mileage, but will def get you to where you need to be with the break-in.
$65 day of or pre pay $55 seems pretty high for a dyno day.. when Im sure it would cost $65 any day of the week?? I thought Dyno days were a way to make $$ by price low to get alot of people in which would bring in more money in the end. Rather than not so many people paying full price. I remember when I had a mustang and TCS had dyno days you paid like $25-$30 for 2 or 3 pulls..
Ill be there shootin the shit tho!! :)
Kinda what I was thinking, you brought that up the other day when ya got those o-rings from eric too.
IDK where you guys had dyno days for $25-30, but there are several factors to consider:
-TCS = RWD, they can use a cheap dynojet. We are using an AWD dyno, which are never cheap, and more difficult to setup and run for each car on/off the dyno.
-its 2009, prices tend to go up over time.
-lastly, know that I've fought hard to keep the prices on everything down to keep this affordable. I have been organizing dyno days with local AWD dyno shops for the past 5 years, and it has always been $50/car, jumping to $55 only this year. Please remember that some of the money goes back into the site, prizes, trophies, etc, and often it is ME that ends up eating the loss every time. I try really really hard to brake even for the event, and it rarely happens.
Furthermore, comments like this honestly are hard for me to ignore; several people put a LOT of time, money and energy into these events and this site. If you can't afford the extra $20 over these mythical $30 dyno days, then please just come and hang out as you say, but leave any badmouthing at home. These events are meant to be fun, part of a hobby, weekend fun. A little negativity goes a long ways.
Say a car did pre-register and wasn't able to make it on the dyno, would they be screwed outa the money or coule they get a refund if they let you guys know like 24 hours before the event?
Any situation like this would be on a case-by-case basis. Sign up, and if things are iffy getting close to the event, keep me informed and I'll do whatever I can to refund most if not all of your money. Calling me at noon the day of the event saying you 'might make it later' is not gonna fly, nor will telling me as I call your name to get up on the dyno :) We're a pretty small community here, so reach out to me via PM, phone call, or txt directly as I may miss posts in this or other threads.
awd-drifter
09-21-2009, 12:15 PM
Man! if i get my E316g installed by this week or next week, I'm coming!!! but we'll see man. That dyno price is hecka sweet for 3 runs btw.
scheides
09-21-2009, 12:42 PM
Yeah Its cheaper but doesn't seem like as good of a deal when you have to wait for a ton of people to wait for.
If that's your attitude, then you're kinda missing the point ;) It's not like going to the dentist. Half of the fun is hanging out and watching other people's cars on the dyno!
A way they could do it another time maybe is Mitsustyle rents out the dyno for a day (certain amount of time) for lets say $500. The cost then gets devided among all those using the dyno so the more there is the cheaper it is down to a certain dollar amount ($30/per) then what ever extra it brings in to be over the cost of $500 goes back into the website/events??
It would be cool if it worked that way but let's say we get a good deal and the dyno is $85/hour, $500 buys us about 6 hours. If it starts at 11 and ends at 5, we could get about 12-15 cars on. Historically, getting 10-15 people to sign up well enough in advance to decide on a price is about the benchmark we've hit, and well, you're right back in that $50-area almost instantly. 1/4 people don't show or don't end up dynoing, so then more people need to pay the day of, and did the other people that signed up before pay in advance? If not, who covers the $500 if it needs to be up front? Who operates the dyno, straps the cars down, etc etc.
I like your idea but in all honesty there's a reason we run the dyno days the way we do, because over the years we've found a recipe that works for us. We're constantly trying to improve upon this, and as a result this year we're doing the pre-pay thing, and after the spring dyno day I am very happy with how it works. I have the ability to refund money (as stated above) if needed, so no one should really be scared to sign up ahead of time, and ultimately the cost is as fair as it is gonna get. The cost is 100% justified by all of the above as well as the dyno facility paying for the dyno, the employees to run it, and the insurance to run it.
Basically what I'm saying is, quite kicking tires and sign up already, this event is gonna be a blast!
curt_gendron
09-21-2009, 01:12 PM
I think Mike Neal needs to go do a price comparison between an old school 2WD dyno and the new AWD dynos. Go price out what they are new and then you'll realize why there is a price difference in using them at a shop.
The MitsuStyle dyno days are very reasonable!
later,
Curt
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