01-13-2012
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flips McGee
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Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
Somewhere on the backside of the trans, near the rear mount mebbe?
Good thing I asked for a new impact gun and prybars for xmas I guess?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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01-13-2012
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hastings, MN
Drives: 08 Evolution X
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
That is the infamous diff pin issue. That spot is exactly were the pins are in the differential. Look familiar? http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46307
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01-13-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
Yup! That is the exact spot, thanks! I was looking for pics others had posted.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
I haven't followed the X that close yet(I want one at some point). What's this issue?
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01-13-2012
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It was a auto get over it
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
ya know i didnt think you would have that much rust on yourX yet but i guess MN is a bitch in the winter
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01-13-2012
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
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Originally Posted by Speedfreak
I haven't followed the X that close yet(I want one at some point). What's this issue?
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2008 X GSR center diff pins back out. They were revised for 2010+, which is what Shep uses in the 2008 rebuilds. Buschur and a few others also make their own replacement pins.
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I agree with Kracka.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
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Originally Posted by Kracka
2008 X GSR center diff pins back out. They were revised for 2010+, which is what Shep uses in the 2008 rebuilds. Buschur and a few others also make their own replacement pins.
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Good to know. Thanks.
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01-13-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
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Originally Posted by Speedfreak
I haven't followed the X that close yet(I want one at some point). What's this issue?
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Ya, here's a pic of the diff and the broken pins (I think this is it anyways):
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Originally Posted by twack
ya know i didnt think you would have that much rust on yourX yet but i guess MN is a bitch in the winter
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Umm...because race car? LOL this car started life in south dakota on a farm so yea....beaterX...it has that name for a reason
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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01-13-2012
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
I still like Jacks fix over new diff pins. They fix the actual oiling problem vs. new stronger diff pins. That being said I have the buschur diff pins in my car but I expect them to fail at some point.
I should come over and help pull this out so I can learn how to do something hard on my car and save monies in the future.
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01-13-2012
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hastings, MN
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I still like Jacks fix over new diff pins. They fix the actual oiling problem vs. new stronger diff pins. That being said I have the buschur diff pins in my car but I expect them to fail at some point.
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Actually Jack's Fix is a bit overkill, these gears do not rotate often in the EVO X (has ACD), they do rotate a bit in the 2g and 1g transmissions (open diff). In an ACD config the gears in the center diff only rotate when power is applied and only for milliseconds (the delay can be set by the tarmac, vs gravel vs snow mode.. snow is the longest delay) until the ACD clutch plates actually lock up the center diff. It stays in that locked state until the power is removed and the cycle repeats. So most of the time the gears in the diff don't even rotate, they are idle. They do however see power, and forces while even at a idle locked state. The real issue was the loosy goosy sloppy clearances they used on the diff housings to gear pins that cause them to walk around in the housing every time power is applied that is slowly shearing off the "pins" the hold the gear pins over time in the housing.
What the Buschur pins do is get rid of that slop, so I think you are safe Murlo.
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01-13-2012
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
Damn, your car has more rust than my 92 does!
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01-13-2012
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Pewp Champion
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
That leak should help coat the underside of your car to help stop more rust from forming.
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01-13-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
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Originally Posted by niterydr
Damn, your car has more rust than my 92 does!
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Originally Posted by Halon
That leak should help coat the underside of your car to help stop more rust from forming.
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LOL I hate you guys!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
The underside of my IX was insane too, and I even went to a wash with underbody spray weekly
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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01-16-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
This little piggy stuck it's pin pin out:
This little piggy stuck out a little less:
This little piggy went aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh grind crack puuuuke:
High res pics:
http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evoX?page=23
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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01-16-2012
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
I bet some jb weld would have fixed that leak just fine
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01-16-2012
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
Damn that sucks.
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01-16-2012
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
So whats the plan with it? Sending it to jacks or having ron fix it?
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01-16-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
It's in pieces at Ron's right now but I was thinking we'd get the pins from Buschur, slap it back together and call it a day....but I guess Buschur does not sell those pins anymore so we're talking to jack's, shep, etc to try and figure out a game plan. Prolly just use the revised 2010 pins.
Everything else in the trans looks minty fresh; I'm amazed that this thing had to come apart before my 1g did (66k miles spun input shaft bearing!) as that was my first dsm maintenance shock, but yea...screw it.
I've been looking back at my walbro 400 testing and thinking how food the car felt after being on pump gas for nearly a month and...I guess I just shook'em loose! I haven't launched the car or anything but lord knows I'm not nice to it...who knows. Guess this is what I get for planning on doing preventative maintenance.
I should have done this when I did the motor last year but damn, I was already shelling out $6k...that extra $900 I simply could not justify. All I know is I'm ordering a replacement CMC and keeping it handy, that's the only 'stupid X thing' that I've been ignoring/laughing at. Karma. Damn it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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01-16-2012
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
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Originally Posted by scheides
It's in pieces at Ron's right now but I was thinking we'd get the pins from Buschur, slap it back together and call it a day....but I guess Buschur does not sell those pins anymore so we're talking to jack's, shep, etc to try and figure out a game plan. Prolly just use the revised 2010 pins.
Everything else in the grand looks minty fresh; I'm amazed that this thing had to come apart before my 1g did (66k miles spun input shaft bearing!) as that was my first dsm maintenance shock, but yea...screw it.
I've been looking back at my walbro 400 testing and thinking how food the car felt after being on pump gas for nearly a month and...I guess I just shook'em loose! I haven't launched the car or anything but lord knows I'm not nice to it...who knows. Guess this is what I get for planning on doing preventative maintenance.
I should have done this when I did the motor last year but damn, I was already shelling out $6k...that extra $900 I simply could not justify. All I know is I'm ordering a replacement CMC and keeping it handy, that's the only 'stupid X thing' that I've been ignoring/laughing at. Karma. Damn it.
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I am on my 3rd CMC, keep the stock one as long as you can. If you haven't ordered the CMC yet I'd wait for AMS's to come out. THey are basically releasing one similar to the magnus but its perfectly flush...basically uber magnus one. I am sure its more expensive but my magnus one has never felt quite right, squeaks a bit, maybe I just need to bleed it.
Regardless, good luck with everything, hopefully you fix it and don't have problems ever again
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