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scheides 01-13-2012 08:18 AM

Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Somewhere on the backside of the trans, near the rear mount mebbe?

http://i.imgur.com/3HbAz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1rX59.jpg


Good thing I asked for a new impact gun and prybars for xmas I guess? :)

simulatedwood 01-13-2012 08:44 AM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
That is the infamous diff pin issue. That spot is exactly were the pins are in the differential. Look familiar? http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46307

scheides 01-13-2012 09:49 AM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Yup! That is the exact spot, thanks! I was looking for pics others had posted.

Speedfreak 01-13-2012 10:25 AM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
I haven't followed the X that close yet(I want one at some point). What's this issue?

twack 01-13-2012 10:58 AM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
ya know i didnt think you would have that much rust on yourX yet but i guess MN is a bitch in the winter

Kracka 01-13-2012 11:02 AM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 398180)
I haven't followed the X that close yet(I want one at some point). What's this issue?

2008 X GSR center diff pins back out. They were revised for 2010+, which is what Shep uses in the 2008 rebuilds. Buschur and a few others also make their own replacement pins.

Speedfreak 01-13-2012 11:46 AM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 398182)
2008 X GSR center diff pins back out. They were revised for 2010+, which is what Shep uses in the 2008 rebuilds. Buschur and a few others also make their own replacement pins.

Good to know. Thanks.

scheides 01-13-2012 12:04 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedfreak (Post 398180)
I haven't followed the X that close yet(I want one at some point). What's this issue?

Ya, here's a pic of the diff and the broken pins (I think this is it anyways):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...8022009163.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by twack (Post 398181)
ya know i didnt think you would have that much rust on yourX yet but i guess MN is a bitch in the winter

Umm...because race car? LOL this car started life in south dakota on a farm so yea....beaterX...it has that name for a reason :)

Murlo26 01-13-2012 12:22 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
I still like Jacks fix over new diff pins. They fix the actual oiling problem vs. new stronger diff pins. That being said I have the buschur diff pins in my car but I expect them to fail at some point.

I should come over and help pull this out so I can learn how to do something hard on my car and save monies in the future.

simulatedwood 01-13-2012 01:00 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 398187)
I still like Jacks fix over new diff pins. They fix the actual oiling problem vs. new stronger diff pins. That being said I have the buschur diff pins in my car but I expect them to fail at some point.

Actually Jack's Fix is a bit overkill, these gears do not rotate often in the EVO X (has ACD), they do rotate a bit in the 2g and 1g transmissions (open diff). In an ACD config the gears in the center diff only rotate when power is applied and only for milliseconds (the delay can be set by the tarmac, vs gravel vs snow mode.. snow is the longest delay) until the ACD clutch plates actually lock up the center diff. It stays in that locked state until the power is removed and the cycle repeats. So most of the time the gears in the diff don't even rotate, they are idle. They do however see power, and forces while even at a idle locked state. The real issue was the loosy goosy sloppy clearances they used on the diff housings to gear pins that cause them to walk around in the housing every time power is applied that is slowly shearing off the "pins" the hold the gear pins over time in the housing.

What the Buschur pins do is get rid of that slop, so I think you are safe Murlo.

niterydr 01-13-2012 01:04 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Damn, your car has more rust than my 92 does!

Halon 01-13-2012 03:13 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
That leak should help coat the underside of your car to help stop more rust from forming.

scheides 01-13-2012 05:32 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 398190)
Damn, your car has more rust than my 92 does!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 398195)
That leak should help coat the underside of your car to help stop more rust from forming.

LOL I hate you guys!

Kracka 01-13-2012 06:57 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
The underside of my IX was insane too, and I even went to a wash with underbody spray weekly :(

scheides 01-16-2012 05:43 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
This little piggy stuck it's pin pin out:

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/image.sized.jpeg

This little piggy stuck out a little less:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/image2.sized.jpeg

This little piggy went aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh grind crack puuuuke:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/image3.sized.jpeg

High res pics:
http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evoX?page=23

C3L1CA 01-16-2012 09:53 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
I bet some jb weld would have fixed that leak just fine

niterydr 01-16-2012 10:05 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Damn that sucks.

Murlo26 01-16-2012 10:59 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
So whats the plan with it? Sending it to jacks or having ron fix it?

scheides 01-16-2012 11:11 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
It's in pieces at Ron's right now but I was thinking we'd get the pins from Buschur, slap it back together and call it a day....but I guess Buschur does not sell those pins anymore so we're talking to jack's, shep, etc to try and figure out a game plan. Prolly just use the revised 2010 pins.

Everything else in the trans looks minty fresh; I'm amazed that this thing had to come apart before my 1g did (66k miles spun input shaft bearing!) as that was my first dsm maintenance shock, but yea...screw it.

I've been looking back at my walbro 400 testing and thinking how food the car felt after being on pump gas for nearly a month and...I guess I just shook'em loose! I haven't launched the car or anything but lord knows I'm not nice to it...who knows. Guess this is what I get for planning on doing preventative maintenance.

I should have done this when I did the motor last year but damn, I was already shelling out $6k...that extra $900 I simply could not justify. All I know is I'm ordering a replacement CMC and keeping it handy, that's the only 'stupid X thing' that I've been ignoring/laughing at. Karma. Damn it.

Murlo26 01-16-2012 11:14 PM

Re: Anyone know where the diff pins should poke through on the X-trans?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 398355)
It's in pieces at Ron's right now but I was thinking we'd get the pins from Buschur, slap it back together and call it a day....but I guess Buschur does not sell those pins anymore so we're talking to jack's, shep, etc to try and figure out a game plan. Prolly just use the revised 2010 pins.

Everything else in the grand looks minty fresh; I'm amazed that this thing had to come apart before my 1g did (66k miles spun input shaft bearing!) as that was my first dsm maintenance shock, but yea...screw it.

I've been looking back at my walbro 400 testing and thinking how food the car felt after being on pump gas for nearly a month and...I guess I just shook'em loose! I haven't launched the car or anything but lord knows I'm not nice to it...who knows. Guess this is what I get for planning on doing preventative maintenance.

I should have done this when I did the motor last year but damn, I was already shelling out $6k...that extra $900 I simply could not justify. All I know is I'm ordering a replacement CMC and keeping it handy, that's the only 'stupid X thing' that I've been ignoring/laughing at. Karma. Damn it.

I am on my 3rd CMC, keep the stock one as long as you can. If you haven't ordered the CMC yet I'd wait for AMS's to come out. THey are basically releasing one similar to the magnus but its perfectly flush...basically uber magnus one. I am sure its more expensive but my magnus one has never felt quite right, squeaks a bit, maybe I just need to bleed it.

Regardless, good luck with everything, hopefully you fix it and don't have problems ever again :)


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