08-17-2009
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Posts: 956
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Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
This is fantastic news, one of the biggest drawbacks of megasquirt is that you have to create your own wiring harness or tap into the existing harness (messy)
Now, you can have all the Megasquirt goodness in an ecu that plugs right in, all for $460
Taken from the website:
OEM ECU Connector to plug right into the factory harness!
Speed Density, Alpha-N and Hybrid Alpha-N (both SD and A-N algorithms hybridized) Supported
2 Ignition Inputs (for dual wheel ignitions)
4 Spark Outputs (Up to 4 Cylinder Coil On Plug, up to 8 Cylinder Wasted Spark)
Rotary Ignition Support
Enhanced Acceleration Enrichment (EAE)
Boost Control
Knock Control
Launch Control
Flat Shift
Tachometer Output
Fully Adjustable Rev Limiter
Table Switching
4 General PurposeOutputs
4 General Purpose Inputs (2 analog, 2 digital)
Support for Flex Fuel
Optional Realtime Baro Correction
Closed Loop O2 Correction
Plenty of Proto Area, add your own customizations!
There's more than we could list here-- click this link to view the full featurelist of MS2/E.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/d...kit-p-384.html
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08-17-2009
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maple Grove
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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building a 3000GT AWD Turbo.
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08-17-2009
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Crash Course Racing
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Skid Row
Drives: in circles
Posts: 2,623
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
I have been kicking around the idea of MS for my Chevelle
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08-17-2009
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
Nice! I've been using this on a local project car lately with pretty good success doing a pure alpha-n setup. (Birkin with a ztec motor with ITB's, not a dsm).
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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08-17-2009
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: edward lake
Drives: toaster
Posts: 6,431
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
that is nice. to bad they dont have a plug and play for a evo I-III
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08-18-2009
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Smells Like Fish
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Drives: 96GSX
Posts: 215
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
Anyone want to buy 2g dsmlink V3?
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out-running the velocichoppa! in my dsm.
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08-18-2009
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
That would be a downgrade.
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08-19-2009
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by ecoli
That would be a downgrade.
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I agree! The dsmlink setup is the sweetest thing to happen to the DSM's since the 16g turbo. I just like that they are starting to introduce plug and play setups ,takes a lot of the install mistakes away.
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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08-19-2009
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maple Grove
Posts: 956
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by ecoli
That would be a downgrade.
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Ecoli, I respect your expertise in DSMs, but how can you say Megasquirt is a downgrade?
Flexfuel (great for mixing E70/E85)
Direct COP
Direct injector control (not batch)
Speed density (wayyyyy superior to any "airflow meter")
Wideband controller talks directly with megasquirt, no "simulated narrowband output" needed
As soon as I saw the 2D timing tables on ECMLink, I put down the laptop and haven't looked at ECM link since.
Maybe I'm not giving ECMlink a fighting change, but seriously, side by side, Megasquirt outperforms ECMLink in every department
tons of room to prototype new technology on the ecu (look at the proto area)
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Last edited by iceminion; 08-19-2009 at 11:25 AM..
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08-19-2009
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Circle Pines
Drives: 1992 talon tsi 1995 corolla
Posts: 2,048
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by iceminion
Well, most of us know how to tune speed density tables (far superior IMHO), I think DSMLink will work for joesushi, but he needs to have it tuned....anyone up for the task?
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I don't know if its out yet I don't frequent the link forums very much but they coming out with an update for v3 to run speed density
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08-19-2009
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
Please explain to me how speed density is far superior to any airflow sensor and under what applications it is superior in.
...all due respect of course, I am all ears.
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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08-19-2009
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
I was mostly just being a snide asshole with that comment. I just can't see giving up one of the best ECUs and best knock control ever for a lowend standalone on a car that has good options for it already. Swap in an Evo ECU, if you want all kinds of cool stuff to play with.
DSM ecu's run injectors sequential, not batch.
DSMLink can do speed density, but a MAF setup is superior for most street cars. We convert 80s Mustangs away from speed density to MAF setups often.
DSM ECU's can't directly run COP, but the stock ignition is great in the first place. Direct COP is often not better than a coil pack wasted spark setup.
Wideband is not important with the stock ECU, stock O2 sensor or none at all works fine.
DSMLink can't do flexfuel easy, but the difference between E70 and E80(I don't normally see over 805) isn't huge for most cars.
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08-20-2009
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
Drives: 2003 Evolution VIII
Posts: 7,752
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by niterydr
Please explain to me how speed density is far superior to any airflow sensor and under what applications it is superior in.
...all due respect of course, I am all ears.
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Don't forget, this is the same guy who drills holes in engine blocks because his car has other issues he'd rather not address...
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03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
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Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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08-20-2009
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Banned
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Suburbs
Drives: FS-T
Posts: 346
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by matt d.
don't forget, this is the same guy who drills holes in engine blocks because his car has other issues he'd rather not address...
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Epic Post!
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08-20-2009
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Circle Pines
Drives: 1992 talon tsi 1995 corolla
Posts: 2,048
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by Matt D.
Don't forget, this is the same guy who drills holes in engine blocks because his car has other issues he'd rather not address...
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ha ha ha ha
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08-20-2009
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
hey hey hey!!! just because someone has a different take on the way to make a car perform doesnt mean we need to shoot him down! for all we know he may be onto the next great tune base for our loveable dsm! also everyone is entitled to their own opinion and i think that all should be heard!!!
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08-31-2009
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Built it from scratch!
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: St. Paul
Drives: Currently Mitsu-less
Posts: 851
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by ecoli
I was mostly just being a snide asshole with that comment. I just can't see giving up one of the best ECUs and best knock control ever for a lowend standalone on a car that has good options for it already. Swap in an Evo ECU, if you want all kinds of cool stuff to play with.
DSM ecu's run injectors sequential, not batch.
DSMLink can do speed density, but a MAF setup is superior for most street cars. We convert 80s Mustangs away from speed density to MAF setups often.
DSM ECU's can't directly run COP, but the stock ignition is great in the first place. Direct COP is often not better than a coil pack wasted spark setup.
Wideband is not important with the stock ECU, stock O2 sensor or none at all works fine.
DSMLink can't do flexfuel easy, but the difference between E70 and E80(I don't normally see over 805) isn't huge for most cars.
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My Megasquirt is doing full sequential injection with 1150cc...
It could run COP but I have it using the stock coil pack...
Also my ECU isn't Eprom (which I guess there is a fix for that) but that was my push to use this system at the time.
IMO Megasquirt is catching on (not so much with the DSM unless it has a 420a motor) and it is rapidly advancing from what it was originally. It is becoming so much more user friendly with tuner studio
Just putting in my 2cents
I really don't think MS2 or MicroSquirt is a low end system anymore
Maybe the MS1 chip with a V2.2 board is low end but what they have now is much better.
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09-01-2009
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
Posts: 1,375
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
Good Luck running ITB's with your MAF
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Originally Posted by Andrew7dg
I really don't think MS2 or MicroSquirt is a low end system anymore
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It's not. People are either confusing 'easier' with 'better' or are just plain inexperienced with the overall product. Now with MS3 just around the corner available as an add-in daughter board, we are really starting to compare apples to oranges. It's 2009... I choose control and flexibility with a vast and open ended user community. I choose MS.
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09-01-2009
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livin the dream
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: iowa
Drives: 07 zx6r and 04 Rx8
Posts: 451
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
so u just plug it in and it automaticaly sets all your stuff or what
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09-01-2009
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: Plug and Play Megasquirt for 2G.
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Originally Posted by 96GST16g
so u just plug it in and it automaticaly sets all your stuff or what
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I don't compeletely understand the question, but if you are asking if you just plug this box in and your car runs perfectly right out of the box without any user input at all, I'm going to go with no. You still need to open the program and set it up and modify it for your personal setup and plans you have in mind.
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