PG 2013 - Can we get some love here? - Page 3

turbotalon1g · 02-04-2013

^Yep, turns out auto is good for straight line racing, who knew?

turbotalon1g · 02-21-2013

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Originally Posted by Tachyon

Last year there were two formats of Stock Appearing: SA and SA/U

SA

Stock appearing turbocharger
- Compressor / turbo inlet must be stock size
- No visible external wastegates
- 2G DSMs may run TD05H variations (14B, 16G, etc)
Must have stock appearing intake and exhaust manifolds (Swaps between generations allowed)
Front mount intercoolers and upgraded BOV allowed
Unlimited fuel modifications (alternative fuel allowed, no nitrous)
DOT approved Tires Only, tread rating over 100 required
Must have full interior & exhaust that exits behind rear tires
Any ECU mods allowed (standalones allowed)

SA/U

Stock frame turbocharger
- External wastegates are acceptable in any configuration
- Intake and Exhaust manifold upgrades are acceptable in any configuration
- 2G DSMs may run TD05H variations (14B, 16G, etc)
Must have full exhaust that exists behind rear tires
Unlimited fuel modifications (alternative fueling allowed, injection of methanol and nitrous allowed)
Any ECU mods allowed (standalones allowed)
Tire Restrictions
- AWD/RWD -- DOT approved drag radials
- FWD -- Slicks up to 24.5"

I was placed in SA/U due to my EWG. Honestly I would have much preferred to be in straight up SA as that's where all my friends (as well as closer competition) was.

That being said, if GT-R's show up again, it's basically an auto win in SA for them. I can't think of any other import that can trap 135+ with bolt-ons and still look completely stock. It will be interesting to see how MAP writes the rules this year.

You guys figure anything out? I think since most of us rock FP manifolds lets just rock SA/U, the GTRs can have sa. At least it will be a good show.

turbotalon1g · 03-06-2013

MAP - any word on SA class and GTRs?

**CornFed2.4** · 03-07-2013

What Aaron said! Spring almost here and need to know where I need to go with my car.

**CornFed2.4** · 03-12-2013

Anyone from map wanna answer if the rules for SA are gonna change from last yr? Like lexan hatch glass? Or had to be a stock maf?

Nate had made those suggestions. So want to know what the final say is? Thanks!

turbotalon1g · 03-12-2013

lol, lexan hatch hahaha.
You must want to win bad?

URV8SUX · 03-14-2013

They must be too busy fighting on Facebook with FP and Magnus.

Shit maybe by May they will post the rules!

**CornFed2.4** · 03-14-2013

Nope, I don't want to win. I just don't want to waste money on weight reduction like a carbon hatch and not be able to run lexan window as the rear glass is a majority of the weight.

Joel posted on Facebook to see if they would answer.

blackawdtsi · 03-14-2013

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Originally Posted by URV8SUX

They must be too busy fighting on Facebook with FP and Magnus.

evotuner · 03-15-2013

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Originally Posted by URV8SUX

They must be too busy fighting on Facebook with FP and Magnus.

Shit maybe by May they will post the rules!

HAHAHA

**maperformance** · 03-27-2013

FYI LOVE IS ON THE WAY! I just got off the phone with Nate thanking him once again for his efforts, and letting him know they will no be wasted. We plan to move forward with almost exactly what he has laid out. I have listed out a few key changes below just as an advanced heads up, right now we are updating our site and working with BIR to finalize the pre registration and should have new threads posted by the end of the week.

*R35 GTR's will be allowed in SA/U only
*We added Index racing classes for all import and domestics ranging from 11.5-13.0 in .5 intervals
*We have a 13.0+ bracket class
*We are working on a "quick 16" like class

**Murlo26** · 03-27-2013

Nice on the GTR's moving to SA/U. That seems very fair. Even then they will mop up still I am sure lol. But gives 4 cylinders a chance.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 03-27-2013

Awesome! I know some of the Honda guys had some valid issues with some of classes on MNHondas, but I think it was mostly minor things like allowing a fuel cell up front on the NA cars.

turbotalon1g · 03-27-2013

Awesome, I know there are a lot of people waiting to hear this so they can continue with mods to their cars.

**CornFed2.4** · 03-27-2013

Waiting for full rules.

**JET** · 03-27-2013

If the GTR's are moved then the 911TT's should be too.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 03-28-2013

In Nate's rules it says the normal stock appearing is only for 4 cylinder cars, guess it depends if they use those rules or just a very abridged version.

blackawdtsi · 03-28-2013

MAP - Are you guys seriously going to worry about 8oz of carpet from the front seat forward in RS/U?

**maperformance** · 03-28-2013

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Originally Posted by blackawdtsi

MAP - Are you guys seriously going to worry about 8oz of carpet from the front seat forward in RS/U?

That reminds me of one last thing I wanted to make you guys aware of. As you all know we have to set class rules and they won't always make complete sense and sometimes exceptions need to be made. This year will be by having your fellow peers enforce class rules. This is how things have ran for years at the BR shootout and we feel like this can benefit all of us. It should cut down the time spent getting through tech, and it will allow you to speak out against anyone who is in your class if you so choose.

blackawdtsi · 05-09-2013

I'm curious how many outlaw cars will show up.