01-27-2010
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98
If u look into my build that is what will give you your goal
Not that everything in my build is nessasary.. my tune was on major boost leaks and I'm going to get a retune this spring and shooting for 500 awhp
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You BETTER make over 500 on THAT dyno....
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01-27-2010
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Willmar, MN
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
I don't think there's anything that magical about Curt Browns 499hp 16G setup. He had basically EVERYTHING for supporting mods, and I think he was running like 12.5:1 compression or something crazy. I still think it was kind of odd having peak torque up at 5-5500, and much lower than the hp. My torque was about 120 higher at 4 grand.
It can be hard to compare one dyno to the next. Plus my dynochart from MAP shows SAE correction, not STD. I've done some quick checking and everything was basically showing a 2.6% advantage using STD over SAE. Now I also saw someone who got a 4.9% difference between the two.
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01-27-2010
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
Based on the Curt Brown dyno graph he was not at MBT for some reason, there was a little more in that tune, but I doubt that would equal more peak HP, but more torque for sure.
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I am thinking that the cams have a very late IVC which lowers the overall dynamic compression of his pistons, thus resulting in more airflow at the cost of spool and MBT. I was going to say, didn't Jrohner make around 430 AWTQ (on the omgjet) with his 16g setup?
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01-27-2010
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IS Broken :-/
Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
here is the turbo im getting of my buddy's 420a

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1991 Eagle Talon awd
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dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
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01-27-2010
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by sleepydsm
You BETTER make over 500 on THAT dyno....
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Well If I do it will be at a dyno day because I will be going to shane for my new tune.
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01-27-2010
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Big Turbo Monster
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by way2fastlaser
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Ahhhhh... You know that turbo won't bolt up to your car right??? Get a turbo meant for a turbo dsm.
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01-27-2010
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Pewp Champion
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
Nice color 1G.
One thing I wanted to mention was not to waste your money on upgraded fuel lines. Stock 1G lines go a long way. An upgraded feed-line may be appropriate, but other than that, unneccessary.
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01-28-2010
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IS Broken :-/
Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
Drives: 91 Talon awd /90 laser rsT
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
how will it not Fit ?
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1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
+more mods to list
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cottage Grove
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
It looks like that turbo is welded to the manifold, and a turbo setup for a 420A won't bolt on to a 4g63 unless it's a t3 turbo, and you'll need a t3 manifold for a 4g63 to even get that to bolt on.
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01-28-2010
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IS Broken :-/
Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
if i was going to run it. id do a t3 flanged manifold top or bodom mount
but its for sure a T3/T04E turbonetics Compressor Housing - 60-1 Compressor Wheel - F1-62 Turbine Wheel - Standard Housing - .63 A/R fully clockable the whole thing comes apart easy 5 bolts to take off on exhaust side from the center section and 4 for the compressor side off the center section and another 6 on the compressor side around it
best part it was free ill post pictures
like i said earlier im my post going to max out the e16 first then try to run this or fix it and sell it
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1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
+more mods to list
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01-28-2010
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: sioux falls
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
if your looking to get rid of that 16g im in need of one for my project. lmk
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01-28-2010
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IS Broken :-/
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
+more mods to list
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01-28-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by way2fastlaser
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It's great that you guys can buy new parts for so cheap. My X mani was nearly 4x the price.
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01-28-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by mlomker
It's great that you guys can buy new parts for so cheap. My X mani was nearly 4x the price.
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Well you're buying good quality stuff. Megan racing stuff, I would not expect a manifold like that to last...maybe it will, I'll eat my words...their o2 housings for the evo8/9 have proven very reliable...but idk, plenty of those cheap manifolds crack pretty quick! I'm sure they'll have a manifold for the X for about $200 pretty soon too, but I doublt it'll stack up to your FR manifold 
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01-28-2010
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At-Least-It's-White-Again
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by scheides
Well you're buying good quality stuff. Megan racing stuff, I would not expect a manifold like that to last...maybe it will, I'll eat my words...their o2 housings for the evo8/9 have proven very reliable...but idk, plenty of those cheap manifolds crack pretty quick! I'm sure they'll have a manifold for the X for about $200 pretty soon too, but I doublt it'll stack up to your FR manifold 
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The one car that the Ebay/Megan racing manifolds don't seem to work on is DSMs. They work great on supras, hondas, 240s, etc though!
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01-28-2010
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
if you want to get rid of that 16g pm me im in need of one. if its a real one
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01-28-2010
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Big Turbo Monster
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by 93tsiawd
if you want to get rid of that 16g pm me im in need of one. if its a real one
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In case he didn't see your post 5 posts above?
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7/25/09
Motorcycle cop pulls up next to me on UNI and says "Want to race?"
Me- "I don't think you would stand a chance."
Cop says "probably not" and drives off.
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01-28-2010
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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Originally Posted by slowbubblecar
In case he didn't see your post 5 posts above?
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i dont think he did lol..since he replied after my post but didnt give me an answer
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90 Eclipse GS-T (sold)
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01-28-2010
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Big Turbo Monster
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
Just PM him. He can't miss that 
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Life's tough.... it's even tougher if you're stupid.
7/25/09
Motorcycle cop pulls up next to me on UNI and says "Want to race?"
Me- "I don't think you would stand a chance."
Cop says "probably not" and drives off.
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01-29-2010
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IS Broken :-/
Join Date: May 2009
Location: crookdale
Drives: 91 Talon awd /90 laser rsT
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Re: 1991 talon 500 hp project
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1991 Eagle Talon awd
2.0 fully built lower-end
wiseco/eagle rods / crank 9:0:1
dsmlink v.2.5 fp race mani 880cc injectors w255
hx35/bep/maperformance o2 with dump
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