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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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But this is the beauty of a Republic, the individual is protected from the whims of the masses. Freedom of speech is protected for that reason.
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OMG REALLY?!?! Do you even know what you are arguing? NO ONE IS GOING TO TELL YOU TO TAKE DOWN YOUR CONFEDERATE FLAG!!!! They are NOT making your flag illegal. 
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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Can't have your cake and eat it to. Either we have free speech or we don't
Can't regulate away everything somebody dislikes.
I don't see anybody criticizing the Black Panther's flag and what it means,.... How about ISIS,... How about the LGBT flag,... and so on, there will always be somebody not liking it.
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The right to free speech is a right of the citizens of the USA. The state government is an entity, not a person. No one is saying you can't display the Confederate flag. The issue is whether the state government should be flying it. In reality, the government should follow the direction of the people. (even though that doesn't always happen) We have reached the point where enough of the people find it offensive, and it should be taken down.
I'll be the first one to agree that the fact that the Confederate flag has reached this kind of symbolism is kind of stupid. But it is what it is. I wish every person in America could go to school and get a great education and be full contributors to society. That would help race relations a lot. But that too, is just too much pie in the sky thinking.
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
If the states/governments see it as a part of their history in a positive way, not in the way it's been twisted to mean, they should fly it if they so choose. It hurts no one.
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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If the states/governments see it as a part of their history in a positive way, not in the way it's been twisted to mean, they should fly it if they so choose. It hurts no one.
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and they are choosing to take it down. The federal government is not making them take it down, the people are stating their opinion to take them down.
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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and they are choosing to take it down. The federal government is not making them take it down, the people are stating their opinion to take them down.
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True. But why? Because of the moral majority or the lunatic fring? I live in the south. It's not flown here to promote slavery, it's just a southern pride thing. And no, I don't fly one
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
Food for thought: Should the word/term "Dixie" be considered offensive as well since it is often associated with the Stars & Bars? At what point does it stop?
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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Food for thought: Should the word/term "Dixie" be considered offensive as well since it is often associated with the Stars & Bars? At what point does it stop?
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quit grabbing at straws. Its not the same thing.
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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quit grabbing at straws. Its not the same thing.
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Please explain. People have associated racism and slavery to the Confederate flag, and the Confederate flag is associated with Dixie. This just begs the question, where will it end? What is to be considered an acceptable level of offensiveness?
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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quit grabbing at straws. Its not the same thing.
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Sure it is.
George Washington owned slaves, some while he was President. Should we tear down the Washington Monument too?
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Please explain. People have associated racism and slavery to the Confederate flag, and the Confederate flag is associated with Dixie. This just begs the question, where will it end? What is to be considered an acceptable level of offensiveness?
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It won't end, this is just the start,......
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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George Washington owned slaves, some while he was President. Should we tear down the Washington Monument too?
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Funny you mention that...
http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...m_lincoln.html
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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Guess the Lincoln memorial is next,.......
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
^Sad...means the race is almost over 
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I agree with Kracka.
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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sorry I had to laugh at this. lol
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxNZrFyl2DA
The battle to remove the flag from at least SC is nothing new, according to this 2001 documentary
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
The Confederate States of America was, among other things, pro-slavery. The main issue that started the Civil War was slavery. To some people, the Confederate Flag represents slavery.
In a democracy such as ours, the government belongs to the people. A state government belongs to all the people in that state. If many black folks feel that the Confederate flag represents slavery, they might feel offended, even excluded and not recognized by their own government.
If you believe this a free speech issue, then it should be allowed to have any and all flags flown at a state capital that any group/person wants. Why should the gov't play favorites with symbols?
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
Yep, this is what the "pussyfication of a nation" looks like.
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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Re: Confederate flag, yes or no?
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Yep, this is what the "pussyfication of a nation" looks like.
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Or this is what pussyfication of a nation looks like.
Dad: Son, why are you crying?!
Son: The state capitol might take down the Confederate flag and only allow private citizens to fly it. ::SOBBING::
Dad: What's so bad about that?
Son: It's part of our state's history?!
Dad: So shouldn't it be in a history museum?
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