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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maple Grove
Drives: 99Gst
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
They work well.
Here's a dyno of a 16g gas setup from 2007:
Blue line is the Cyclone, red is a 1G Stock manifold.
The record for max power on a Cyclone was 621 HP on a DJ using a laggy GT-35:
I suspect like scheides said, it would be a restriction on high-flow setups, but I have absolute data from back-to-back runs with the same setup.
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so for a 2.3 hx40 build , wanting 500ish do you think it would be a benefit or a restriction?
ive read that it out flows a 1g , but not by much.
seeing how my engine is already a 2.3 I figured the cyclone would give even more grunt in the low end before boost steps in.
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
Im running a cyclone intake on my 2.3 with an actuator just like in the video. Automatic with stock cams and a bastard 20g at 32-35 psi. It is a nut case out of the hole.
Im also going to further the actuator setup by adding a boost control solenoid and controlling it with my evo 8 ecu so that it only opens the butterflys at 4000 rpm.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by M1L3S
so for a 2.3 hx40 build , wanting 500ish do you think it would be a benefit or a restriction?
ive read that it out flows a 1g , but not by much.
seeing how my engine is already a 2.3 I figured the cyclone would give even more grunt in the low end before boost steps in.
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With an HX-40 I would use a SMIM over the Cyclone because the turbo can supply sufficient airflow that it makes sense to make the engine more efficient in the upper RPM range.
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
With an HX-40 I would use a SMIM over the Cyclone because the turbo can supply sufficient airflow that it makes sense to make the engine more efficient in the upper RPM range.
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I agree, it would not be a good choice for comparing it to a smim for 1/4 mile drag racing and overall power. But for a fun street car, and maybe the 1/8th mile, I like it!
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
FYI: It was a pain to clear the A/C compressor, and it was a pain relocating the coil pack and setting up the wastegate actuator.
You can kind of see the wastegate actuator under the spark plug wires.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
Damn, Chad... that looks awesome!
Are you going to be at the spring dyno with it?
I think a friendly peak TQ contest would be in order 
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Damn, Chad... that looks awesome!
Are you going to be at the spring dyno with it?
I think a friendly peak TQ contest would be in order 
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Im currently upgrading my 20g to a billet 20g extended tip, then replacing my 7cm housing with a fp 8cm housing. Then some other minor things I hope to get done by this spring, and make it to the dyno day.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400
Im currently upgrading my 20g to a billet 20g extended tip, then replacing my 7cm housing with a fp 8cm housing. Then some other minor things I hope to get done by this spring, and make it to the dyno day.
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Which billet wheel did you go with? The thread on Tooners made me want to poke my eyes out...
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maple Grove
Drives: 99Gst
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400
FYI: It was a pain to clear the A/C compressor, and it was a pain relocating the coil pack and setting up the wastegate actuator.
You can kind of see the wastegate actuator under the spark plug wires.
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was it hard to set everything up and make it work together ? I have no ac etc.( I mean tune wise )
1g throttle body bolt right up ?
dis the intake make a well worth it difference?
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by M1L3S
was it hard to set everything up and make it work together ? I have no ac etc.( I mean tune wise ) dis the intake make a well worth it difference?
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1g throttle body bolt right up ?
1g throttle body bolts right up. I run speed density with an evo 8 ecu. If your running speed density it will have to be tuned. If your running a maf sensor it should be able to pick up the extra airflow and relay to the ecu alot better.
Yes I do see a nice extra airflow chunk down low
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400
1g throttle body bolt right up ?
1g throttle body bolts right up. I run speed density with an evo 8 ecu. If your running speed density it will have to be tuned. If your running a maf sensor it should be able to pick up the extra airflow and relay to the ecu alot better.
Yes I do see a nice extra airflow chunk down low
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just mean you dont need any additional parts besides the mani? where did you find your gaskets ?
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maple Grove
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Re: this looks to good to be true, has it been proven?
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Originally Posted by blackrosenova400
I agree, it would not be a good choice for comparing it to a smim for 1/4 mile drag racing and overall power. But for a fun street car, and maybe the 1/8th mile, I like it!
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manily a street set up, I have a buddy with a integra that wants a go, and another buddy with a vett.
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