Evo X upgrades - Page 84

**Murlo26** · 11-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Halon

You dropped in new pistons/rings without running a hone or anything? I'd definately say there's a chance that could be the root cause there. The rings may have never bedded in well and hense the increased blow-by.

Pop the head off, oil pan off, remove pistons and rods and run a quick hone up and down. Re-ring and see if that helps. Alothough I don't know Evo X's so I have no clue how difficult removing the head and oil pan is compared to a dsm.

Not easy at all.

**mlomker** · 11-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Halon

Pop the head off, oil pan off, remove pistons and rods and run a quick hone up and down.

Shane didn't want to hone it in the car, said we'd have to pull the motor and that's what led us to where we're at. I'm not a mechanic and I can't afford to have that kind of work re-done. I assume it'd be over $3k to pull the motor to do that right.

Even at Amsoil's $11/qt that will buy a lot of oil.

simulatedwood · 11-19-2010

Id say before jumping to conclusions, Do the necessary troubleshooting steps then worry about whats next.
If the car runs good, just let r buck, enjoy this thing!

**Kracka** · 11-19-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

Even at Amsoil's $11/qt that will buy a lot of oil.

$4.40/qt Mobil 1 FTW

**mlomker** · 11-19-2010

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood

Do the necessary troubleshooting steps then worry about whats next.

I'm not worried, I'm just saying the rings are staying in the motor unless it stops running right.

**Halon** · 11-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Not easy at all.

Just curious, what makes it so difficult in comparison to say a DSM or Evo 8?

And while I agree that yes the ideal way would be to have the motor out, does that mean it has to be done that way? I did the one cylinder on my talon with the motor in the car. I had a bunch of rags/blankets under that cylinder, around the crank, to catch as many particles as possible. Then wiped down the cylinder walls as best I could with rags and tranny fluid and wd40. Never had an issue. Shane when you did the pistons in your 2G, those were just drop in correct? Did you remove the motor for that?

Just a thought, to each their own

**Murlo26** · 11-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Halon

Just curious, what makes it so difficult in comparison to say a DSM or Evo 8?

I am sure Shane could answer this best. Basically every time we talk about the 8/9 vs the X he says how much more work the X is to do. I haven't done it personally so I couldn't tell you.

**mlomker** · 11-19-2010

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Originally Posted by Halon

Shane when you did the pistons in your 2G, those were just drop in correct?

What he had said to me is that if it were his car he'd turn the motor upside down on an engine stand and hone it but he wouldn't do that on a customer's car.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 11-19-2010

Whenever I hone a block, I pull it out and apart to make sure nothing gets in there. It makes a huge mess when you ball hone a block. I am not comfortable doing that in car on a customer car, it doesn't take much metal to screw up things.

428gt · 11-21-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

$4.40/qt Mobil 1 FTW

...and a spun bearing down the road

**scheides** · 11-21-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Not easy at all. About the same amount of work as on a DSM.

FTFY.

**Murlo26** · 11-21-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

FTFY.

I haven't done either, was simply relaying what others who have performed the work have said. You have now done that, so I defer to your expertise

**mlomker** · 11-22-2010

Planning to bring the intake to Primo tonight. I'm going to have them weld an AN fitting on it for a return from my catch can.

**mlomker** · 11-23-2010

I was doing a lot of reading on crankcase ventilation today.

I'm probably wasting my time trying to make the stock setup work--it is only a single fitting that couldn't be more than 3/8ths. It sounds like most setups are running two to four large AN connections (AN10+). Four is obviously overkill but I won't get much ventilation with the stock setup.

I did learn a fair bit. The can on the front of the motor (PCV to intake manifold) collects the most oil but is apparently not the important can for ventilation...the back one is.

For now I'm going to get a fitting on my intake for that connection and see if it does anything. My suspicion is that I'm going to have to pull the valve cover and have some large fittings welded in, along with a different catch can.

**mlomker** · 12-15-2010

Went to drive the Evo to Sensers tonight. The car dies every time that I let the clutch out. Doesn't move at all. I fear that something expensive happened to the drivetrain on my venture into the snow on Saturday. Guess I'll try warming it all the way up tomorrow night and try again. FML

The beater works and the Blue Moon is cold.

**Murlo26** · 12-15-2010

That doesn't sound good at all. Hopefully its nothing serious.

**scheides** · 12-15-2010

Does it idle ok?

**mlomker** · 12-15-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

Does it idle ok?

It starts and runs fine. I revved it a few times and it felt like the car was cold but responding normally. I tried it three times in reverse and once forward. It didn't move at all, it just conked out.

Nothing seemed unusual when I parked it. I'll try it again on Thursday night...bring a flashlight out to the garage and see if I can see anything (like a puddle of fluid!).

**Murlo26** · 12-15-2010

Was your parking brake on?

Also I have had parking brakes ice up and stick to rotors before. Perhaps that is what happened and you need to jar the ice loose.

GG_9_SE · 12-15-2010

^ +1 on that ive had it happen a few times to me. ive also made the facepalm mistake of leaving the hand brake up.