Outsourcing

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Did i clearify that for you?

Not really. All you've done is kept on twisting views and putting words into others' mouths. I have yet to see anyone say they are for out-sourcing, but it has been stated numerous times that it is needed in balance to help support our current economy. As always, someone says something and you twist it to the absolute extreme to fit your agenda.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Kracka

If they truly hated the idea of themselves being rich they'd just spread the wealth throughout the lower classes.

They dont hate being rich, but they see a need to give the middle and lower classes a little boost. Same reason they are pledging to give more than half their wealth when they die. (speaking with regard to bill gates.)
When you have that much wealth, a 3% tax hike is not going to put you in the poor house.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

No i am pointing out the hipocracy that is the view of the Republican party.

No, the only hypocrisy going on here is you reading what we type and regurgitating it in some form that fulfills your fantasy of us constantly being wrong in your mind.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

They are for deporting immegrants (that are doing cheap labor that would otherwise still be minimum wage jobs) but yet are for out sourcing jobs (that are expensive labor that will help americans prosper and become a strong middle class).
I dont see what you are misunderstanding? What im saying is that americans dont want to make minimum wage, and are too proud to take those positions, yet the positions they want that pay well enough to support their families are not available because they have been shipped overseas to india and china.

BULL. SHIT. I know a girl, divorced single mother of one who lost her job at a call center and couldn't find a job for I don't know how many months, only to recently find a part time job at a tanning salon making $7 an hour. $7 AN HOUR! She brings home a whopping $150 a week! If you say people are too proud to to take up these low paying jobs then you seriously need to open your fucking eyes. She and I both know people who can't find any sort of work like she had been looking for. Who knows how many low paying jobs like she had been searching for are occupied by illegals rather than people like her who are looking to make an honest living and still can't hardly make ends meet.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

What the Republicans are essentially saying without coming out and saying it is, "Shoot the jobs that will let americans prosper overseas, and make the talented individuals that would be taking those jobs work in the fields making jack shit."
Did i clearify that for you?

You didn't clarify shit. You only did what you always do, reword anything we ever said so it gives you warm fuzzies.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Kracka

Not really. All you've done is kept on twisting views and putting words into others' mouths. I have yet to see anyone say they are for out-sourcing, but it has been stated numerous times that it is needed in balance to help support our current economy. As always, someone says something and you twist it to the absolute extreme to fit your agenda.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? In the shoutbox, you were doing nothing but defending it, You were stating how i know jack shit about economics because i believe that a stop of shipping jobs overseas will create jobs within our borders.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? In the shoutbox, you were doing nothing but defending it, You were stating how i know jack shit about economics because i believe that a stop of shipping jobs overseas will create jobs within our borders.

Tom, read it how ever you like, at this point trying to explain economics to you is pointless because you refuse to open your eyes and look at the big picture rather than just focusing on the narrow. You also insist on twisting words. Even when we try to agree with something you have to say you still twist it and attack back with it.

[A//// Guy]

No one in the shoutbox was totally PRO outsourcing, we agree its a good idea but it does have its flaws as well. Come on Tom, this extreme twisting of words really needs to stop.

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

And what do all 7 say about the tax cuts for the rich, along with bill gates and many other billionares... They say, WE DONT NEED THOSE TAX CUTS.
Bill gates came out and said it, and the 7 Democrats are among the many looking to let the Bush tax cuts expire.

Really? You're kidding, right? The reason they don't care is because they've exempted themselves from paying most of their taxes, legally or illegally. You need to separate what people say on the campaign trail and what actually happens in real life. And I guarantee not one of those people you mentioned except for BG is donating any portion of their wealth when they die, so coming up with a blanket statement like you did is blatantly false, and typical of the left wing nutbags.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Really? You're kidding, right? The reason they don't care is because they've exempted themselves from paying most of their taxes, legally or illegally. You need to separate what people say on the campaign trail and what actually happens in real life. And I guarantee not one of those people you mentioned except for BG is donating any portion of their wealth when they die, so coming up with a blanket statement like you did is blatantly false, and typical of the left wing nutbags.

I actually said "Bill gates and many other billionares"
http://news.discovery.com/human/bill...ge-income.html
LOL at the right wing nutbags telling me that i have made a blanket statement.

[goodhart]

We need shoutbox records posted in here

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

They are for deporting immigrants (that are doing cheap labor that would otherwise still be minimum wage jobs) but yet are for out sourcing jobs (that are expensive labor that will help Americans prosper and become a strong middle class).
I don't see what you are misunderstanding? What I'm saying is that Americans don't want to make minimum wage, and are too proud to take those positions, yet the positions they want that pay well enough to support their families are not available because they have been shipped overseas to India and China.

Tom, how on Earth are these immigrants going to help America prosper when 90% of their wages go back to their families in Mexico and they don't pay any taxes???

Originally Posted by Matt D.

If you say people are too proud to to take up these low paying jobs then you seriously need to open your fucking eyes. She and I both know people who can't find any sort of work like she had been looking for. Who knows how many low paying jobs like she had been searching for are occupied by illegals rather than people like her who are looking to make an honest living and still can't hardly make ends meet.

+ One Million

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by goodhart

We need shoutbox records posted in here

Ditto.

Originally Posted by goodhart

Tom, how on Earth are these immigrants going to help America prosper when 90% of their wages go back to their families in Mexico and they don't pay any taxes???

I thought of this later on but said to hell with it because Tom would either ignore it (because it's true) or turn it around in some way to use against me (as he does with everything else).

[polishmafia]

Originally Posted by goodhart

Tom, how on Earth are these immigrants going to help America prosper when 90% of their wages go back to their families in Mexico and they don't pay any taxes???

Another form of outsourcing! Tom must be furious!

[niterydr]

Tom, if you understood anything about the GLOBAL economy is that it is here to stay and American based companies need to remain competitive in that. In order to remain competitive, cost cutting measures are needed. One way to cut cost, increase diversity, and obtain new talent is through outsourcing. Many of America's largest companies are now global and have global operations and employees. As it was mentioned in this thread before, gone are the days of keeping everything with the borders. American's need to realize that a high school education will not yield success any longer. Money needs to be invested in education so the American's can obtain positions that are highly skilled and realize that outsourcing can help the economy when utilized correctly.

Tom, I would highly suggest you take a few economics courses and study how different business environments work as well as different economies throughout the world thrive. Simple linking to a few books does not solidify your argument.

Thanks.

[1ViciousGSX]

I don't hear or see Nancy Pelosi or Obama throwing extra monies into their tax payments. Like the rest of the hypocrites??? Keep believing the lies.

Oh yeah,
WELCOME BACK TOM