What the hell is this world coming to?

Matt D. · 05-06-2010

A friend linked this to me. Read the story and watch the video, I'm speechless.

http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/05/vi...id-on-missouri

twack · 05-06-2010

I hope they fucking rot in hell. Such shitty information and shitty cops!

Matt D. · 05-06-2010

And this...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-92945969.html

twack · 05-06-2010

nope first one pissed me off much more

**goodhart** · 05-06-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

And this...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-92945969.html

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

hahaha stupid bitch, she doesn't even know that Cinco De Mayo isn't Mexico's independence day. What a joke, that principal should be shot in the face and live.

Those pigs in the previous video should all go to fucking jail for what they did. WTF. I'm e-mailing both videos to some of my Criminal justice professors to see what they have to say about these videos.

A//// Guy · 05-06-2010

So messed up.

Ihearrtdsm · 05-06-2010

wow horrible!

awd-drifter · 05-06-2010

They should NOT have raided the house like that. My aunt is married to an officer and I've asked him about these kinds of videos online; he tells us that the case has to be pretty extreme to be raiding houses, selling narcotics or illegal drugs or just something that's pretty extreme(illegal weapons, that sort of stuff). It's not needed to raid a house unless the suspect is known to have dangerous weapons. I want to know more on both sides of the story but raiding the house is pretty insane and shooting inside the house also.

1QUICK4 · 05-06-2010

**Halon** · 05-06-2010

Damn can't watch that first one here at work.

But the second one, hmm... I kinda feel like it's kinda a grey area for what the school faculty should have done. I agree it's stupid that it was even an issue in the first place because this is America, and banning someone from wearing anything patriotic is ridiculous.

But I like to look at things from both angles though. At the same time the faculty is looking out for the safety of the kids. And if a bunch of the mexican kids were getting all huffy puffy, and there was a likely chance that a fight was going to break out at school because of it, well then despite the position of the faculty on the actual clothes, they should have the students safety as one of their top priorities. So in that sense of things, I can see them trying to take some kind of action to keep everyone safe. I think it's kind of a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" because if those kids wearing the american flag shirts would have gotten their asses kicked by all those other kids, well then the parents would be screaming about how their kids got beat up at the school and that the faculty should have done something to prevent it all.

It's too bad really. The kids wearing the shirts did nothing wrong. The other ones are the root cause of the drama if they were getting all antsie about it. But I can't say I 100% blame the school faculty for trying to do something to ensure the safety of all the students if that was their reasoning. Maybe they could have done something else, like take the other kids who started the drama to the principles office and punish them, but well they probably had to make a decision fairly quickly, and that's what they did. It's easy to sit back now and pick it all apart, but when tempers are flying at a school during lunch or something, well sometimes you gotta make a decision quickly before something escalates into a fight, and I don't personally blame them for that.

Hopefully they just take it all as a lessoned learned and are better prepared for it when it happens next year, because I bet the kids will do the same thing next year again

**LingLing** · 05-06-2010

That first video is fucked up....sigh.....

1QUICK4 · 05-06-2010

I didn't even look at the 2nd one. The 1st vid pissed me off sumthin' fierce

hellomynameis · 05-06-2010

Am I missing something in the first video that has you all incensed?

Video doesn't show anyone shooting a dog in front of a kid. Doesn't show what the dog was doing that provoked shooting and killing it. There's no information regarding why a warrant like that was issued. I didn't see any police brutality or other outrageous things that occurred.

There is not enough information presented in the link you posted to drawn any kind of conclusion other than police officers executed a search warrant, shot a dog, arrested a man, and woman and child were also present in the house.

Matt D. · 05-06-2010

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Originally Posted by hellomynameis

Am I missing something in the first video that has you all incensed?

Video doesn't show anyone shooting a dog in front of a kid. Doesn't show what the dog was doing that provoked shooting and killing it. There's no information regarding why a warrant like that was issued. I didn't see any police brutality or other outrageous things that occurred.

There is not enough information presented in the link you posted to drawn any kind of conclusion other than police officers executed a search warrant, shot a dog, arrested a man, and woman and child were also present in the house.

The point is that they produced a search warrant for a MISDEMEANOR which resulted in the family's pets being shot and the family traumatized. Had the law done its duty and caught the guy for possession this wouldn't be such a big deal.

hellomynameis · 05-06-2010

Guess I'll take a stab at the second link also...

Would these students have worn american flag shirts and bandannas any other day, or did they specifically wear them on on 5 May to make a point? I'll agree that it's a little stupid to get in trouble for wearing the colours of our country but I don't support people being assholes just because they feel like it—if that is indeed what they were attempting to do.

Again, we don't really know the full story or the intentions of the five students so its hard to draw any real conclusion...

twack · 05-06-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

The point is that they produced a search warrant for a MISDEMEANOR which resulted in the family's pets being shot and the family traumatized. Had the law done its duty and caught the guy for possession this wouldn't be such a big deal.

then theres the small shit in the things the officers says. actually officer he dosnt have to give you his name that is not an officers right. When someone dosnt move their hands fast enough that is not grounds for kicking him. and if they were really worried about security they would of handcuffed the wife as well but they didnt. Protocall was bullshit here, im suprised they remembered to bring a camera and turn it on.

shooting the dog was the result of a over adrenaline filled cop with a trigger happy finger. Better training and regulations are massively needed here. But in reality because it was "in the line of duty" the officers will be told they did what they had to and no consequences or retraining will happen.

In cases like these officers need to know 110% that what they are looking for is inside that house. Obviously they didnt.

Im not anti cop at all an usually go to the side of the law. I studied criminal justice in colege and never pursued it. but in this case those officers were in the wrong and apologies need to be made and the original charges dropped for the trauma they caused

hellomynameis · 05-06-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

The point is that they produced a search warrant for a MISDEMEANOR which resulted in the family's pets being shot and the family traumatized. Had the law done its duty and caught the guy for possession this wouldn't be such a big deal.

Where exactly does it say that? They executed a search warrant for unknown (to us) reasons. They charged him with a misdemeanor.

Unless we know the specifics of what the warrant was for and why it was issued we can't draw any conclusions about what "the law" did or did not do. I don't believe that you can have a warrant issued for a misdemeanor offense. However, if you' like me to confirm that with my brother, I will be happy to do so.

Matt D. · 05-06-2010

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I don't believe that you can have a warrant issued for a misdemeanor offense.

I wouldn't be surprised, government does what ever the hell it wants to these days.

hellomynameis · 05-06-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

I wouldn't be surprised, government does what ever the hell it wants to these days.

I love the attitude.

Turns out a warrant can be issued for most anything. From warrants for your arrest because you didn't pay your parking ticket to a no-knock search warrant for an eighth of weed. However, for that search warrant to be issued you'll need probable cause and have a judge sign it.

So...it's possible they executed a search warrant specifically to find a "small amount" of weed. It is however, highly improbable that they found a judge willing to sign a warrant for a "small amount" of weed.

So, again we find ourselves needing some facts surrounding this case and not a bunch of conjecture.

**Kracka** · 05-06-2010

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So, again we find ourselves needing some facts surrounding this case and not a bunch of conjecture.

I agree with this. I unfortunately can't watch this video on my work machine, but what ype of dog was it and was the dog in any way appearing to attack or threaten the officer? If so, I say the killing of it was justified unless it some some tiny rat dog running around nipping at ankles, in which case kicking it into a wall would be justifiable.