02-05-2010
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
If you aren't throwing a mild spring into a 100% stock head, then you should probably have the installed height, seat pressure, coil bind, retainer to valve guide seal clearance, etc checked. Having different valves or a valve job can throw things off.
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
Drives: '92 Eagle TalonTSI w/many mods
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
Well, what about what I AM doing? 1mm oversized, otherwise stock porting, soda blasted so it's fresh and clean, and rau's beehive ferrera valvesprings, retainers, etc? He said he never shims his and doesn't have issues hitting 11,500rpms..I would hope i'd be ok to hit 9200?
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02-05-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
He said he never shims his and doesn't have issues hitting 11,500rpms..I would hope i'd be ok to hit 9200?
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How often does he tear down the motor? When you cross the line from daily driver (perhaps a 10 sec car) into these beastly ranges then I'm sure a lot of things are done differently.
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02-05-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
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Originally Posted by swifty1638
..i would hope i'd be ok to hit 7900?
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02-05-2010
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
Well, what about what I AM doing? 1mm oversized, otherwise stock porting, soda blasted so it's fresh and clean, and rau's beehive ferrera valvesprings, retainers, etc? He said he never shims his and doesn't have issues hitting 11,500rpms..I would hope i'd be ok to hit 9200?
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I think You mean Ferrea noob. lulz
Good luck with the new setup though, the head upgrades should help the revving issue. I'm thinking of going with the FP Beehives in my car, Shane had said the Kiggly beehives might be a bit too stiff of a spring for my setup.
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
Drives: '92 Eagle TalonTSI w/many mods
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
Motor is only torn down when it's needed. The motor that was in it this last year was the motor all year, and the head swapped once when we where in brainerd for the MCSO, atleast to my knowledge. Either Way, it seems the springs and retainers are more stout then the BC ones I had before..
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02-05-2010
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
Drives: 2003 Evolution VIII
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
Either Way, it seems the springs and retainers are more stout then the BC ones I had before..
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I have been advised by multiple shops to avoid BC springs due to premature fatigue.
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
Well, good thing I got rid of them then! I was cheap when I got them, just as I'm cheap now, but I keep thinking the things I am changing will help for the future. Be it the -an lines everywhere to prevent swelling/leaks/tears, or etc..
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
Well, good thing I got rid of them then! I was cheap when I got them, just as I'm cheap now, but I keep thinking the things I am changing will help for the future. Be it the -an lines everywhere to prevent swelling/leaks/tears, or etc..
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I just purchased GSC beehives, they're similarly priced to the BCs but use stock retainers and you don't have to worry about the questionable quality that Brian Crower is know for.
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03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
hmm..You gonna shim yours though? I guess there's a lot more into it then I thought. Coil bind, valve seat cut, etc..
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02-05-2010
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
hmm..You gonna shim yours though? I guess there's a lot more into it then I thought. Coil bind, valve seat cut, etc..
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MAP will be building my head, so it will be at their mercy.
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"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." -Mario Andretti
03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tachyon
Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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02-05-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
I don't know how to multi-quote, but.
You caused that fuckup where the alternator wasn't grounded probably last year.
And apparently shane puts in springs the right way by checking them unless they are mad sick yo and you want to pay him partially with taco bell, I heard something about "extra no meat" once upon a time.
My head I got from Munchgsx and well we know how he rolls.
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02-05-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
Please note the 'MQ' button, next to the 'quote' button  Click it on whatever posts you want to multi-quote, then click quote on the last one. You can do it in the order you'd like to quote them in, too.
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
lol, yea. The alt was grounded, it was a different wire that wasn't that I didn't know about. It was tucked down away from back when hort had the car. Either way, we all find things that are hacked and not the way it should be, and we fix it, right?
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02-19-2010
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Big Turbo Monster
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hopkins
Drives: GTS and E55
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
lol, yea. The alt was grounded, it was a different wire that wasn't that I didn't know about. It was tucked down away from back when hort had the car. Either way, we all find things that are hacked and not the way it should be, and we fix it, right?
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The battery relocation done in your car was done by QPR and all parts were from summit. I ordered all of them. The car did not have any known electrical issues before you got it. The electrical system functioned perfectly before the motor was pulled.
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Life's tough.... it's even tougher if you're stupid.
7/25/09
Motorcycle cop pulls up next to me on UNI and says "Want to race?"
Me- "I don't think you would stand a chance."
Cop says "probably not" and drives off.
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02-05-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
fuck yeah I hate this car, I find hacked shit all the time still.
I wish I would of started with a stock car, but well I've had quite a journey with this one.
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MN
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
See? We all are there. Fuck it. Fuck cars. Just fix em, and try to go faster! 
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02-05-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
Yeah, but nothing where my car didn't work. Just dumb shit that pisses me off.
Either way, whats left on this beast now?
Can we get pics of teh manifold?>
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
Manifold is currently in the works..I have pics of the collector somewhere..lol. I also have pics of his other work..lemme dig them up.
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02-05-2010
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Unsure resident asshole
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Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
His pics:
A T4 mani he just is finishing up:
And the start of mine..
I keep trying to get him to sign up on here, but he's a busy guy.
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