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Old 01-20-2008   #1
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Re: Hesitates after 7lbs...

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Ignore this guy. He isn't hitting fuel cut at 7 psi. You also have no idea if he is running lean or rich. His SAFC settings would indicate he is pretty rich.
I'd have to disagree with you... spark plug basics 101, reading spark plugs.....

If you pull them and they are wet and black, then you are most likely too rich (possible oil consumption as well)
If you pull them and they are dry and white, then you are most likely too lean (as the original poster stated)
If you pull them and they are a 'toast' or tan color, then you are in the right area for an appropriate afr.

I would double check the wideband sensorys you're usuing to tune the SAFC and make sure that they are in working order. Perhaps cross check the wideband with one from a dyno? I can see how the safc could have been adjusting fuel based on what it thought was a rich reading, and causing a lean condition if the sensors are going out.... sometimes leaded fuel accelerates them wearing out too...

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Re: Hesitates after 7lbs...

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I'd have to disagree with you... spark plug basics 101, reading spark plugs.....

If you pull them and they are wet and black, then you are most likely too rich (possible oil consumption as well)
If you pull them and they are dry and white, then you are most likely too lean (as the original poster stated)
If you pull them and they are a 'toast' or tan color, then you are in the right area for an appropriate afr.

I would double check the wideband sensorys you're usuing to tune the SAFC and make sure that they are in working order. Perhaps cross check the wideband with one from a dyno? I can see how the safc could have been adjusting fuel based on what it thought was a rich reading, and causing a lean condition if the sensors are going out.... sometimes leaded fuel accelerates them wearing out too...

good luck!

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Disagree all you want, it doesn't make you right. Also, it is difficult to really read a plug on a street car. To read a plug you need to shut the engine off immediately after a full throttle pull and then pull the plug, that is not really feasible on a street car. Also, it was never stated that the car had a wideband, so it likely doesn't. If you knew about DSM's, you would know that .035" gap is WAY too big and causes issues just like what was stated. DSM's are picky on the plug gap.
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Old 01-21-2008   #3
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Re: Hesitates after 7lbs...

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If you knew about DSM's, you would know that .035" gap is WAY too big and causes issues just like what was stated. DSM's are picky on the plug gap.

To add to this, they are also very picky about plugs in general. Make sure they are the OEM plug and not some fancy platinums or anything stupid like that.
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To add to this, they are also very picky about plugs in general. Make sure they are the OEM plug and not some fancy platinums or anything stupid like that.
They are the only plugs that I personally would ever run in my car. NGK BPRxES. (he has the 6's i run 7's)
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To add to this, they are also very picky about plugs in general. Make sure they are the OEM plug and not some fancy platinums or anything stupid like that.
I completely burned up a set of NGK Platinum plugs in about 4 months of normal daily driving. I've had the set of regular NGK plugs in my car for about 8 months now, and they're still in really good condition.
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