TRE - Taller 5th Gear - Page 2

ExTREME · 09-28-2006

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

Bring your car to one of the local sponsor shops (one has much lower labor rates than pretty much any place in the Cities) and I'm sure they can do your tranny removal/installation for a decent price.

The taller 5th gear is a great idea, it'll improve MPG and save wear and tear on your engine.

I live no where near the TC area brother. I live in the boonies, 1 mile from SD border. I would love to bring it into a Sponsor shop but I can't truck it down. I was just hoping to get an estimate of what someone else has had theirs done for. They wanted 360$ for the R&R. I gotta save my money. I'm trying to build a reliable DSM..

**Kracka** · 09-28-2006

Do it yourself then, its really not too tough, just take it slow and label everything.

Hoffer00 · 09-28-2006

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Originally Posted by ExTREME

I live no where near the TC area brother. I live in the boonies, 1 mile from SD border. I would love to bring it into a Sponsor shop but I can't truck it down. I was just hoping to get an estimate of what someone else has had theirs done for. They wanted 360$ for the R&R. I gotta save my money. I'm trying to build a reliable DSM..

How much are they doing for you. Are they just pulling the tranny ad doing the work, or are they reinstalling it to.

If they just do the pull off and rebuild that is about 3 hours. If they put it all back together it is more like 5 or 6.

ExTREME · 09-30-2006

They're just pulling the old one out, putting the new one in along with a clutch and flywheel, I'm supplying the New trans and the fluids.

I did alot of the work myself, disconnected all the hoses, wires, sensors, everything but the axles and the DS. Thats where I got stuck and confused and I do not have the tools to do it. I gave up.

I dont know..
-SA

ExTREME · 09-30-2006

^ and the Clutch and Flywheel.

**JET** · 09-30-2006

The drive shaft comes off with the T-case, just 17mm bolts and the same size is used on the suspension (if it's a 1g, you don't say).

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 09-30-2006

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Originally Posted by ExTREME

They're just pulling the old one out, putting the new one in along with a clutch and flywheel, I'm supplying the New trans and the fluids.

I did alot of the work myself, disconnected all the hoses, wires, sensors, everything but the axles and the DS. Thats where I got stuck and confused and I do not have the tools to do it. I gave up.

I dont know..
-SA

Most shops don't want to work on a car that someone already started working on and aren't going to offer a discount when a car comes in half torn apart.

Thor06 · 09-30-2006

Going from 3000 to 2760 would never yeild 7 mpg increase. I cannot imagine that it would really affect your milage more than 1 mpg, thats only a 250 rpm difference at 3000 rpms. Completely not worth it IMO.

Andrew7dg · 09-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Thor06

Going from 3000 to 2760 would never yeild 7 mpg increase. I cannot imagine that it would really affect your milage more than 1 mpg, thats only a 250 rpm difference at 3000 rpms. Completely not worth it IMO.

I think it depends on how the car is setup. If it is made for high revs and dogs in the lower RPM then no, but if it is a 2.3L stroker then a taller gear would be ideal.
It also wouldn't be worth it if the car is making stock HP i would think. I would think the engineers would have put the 5th gear in the most efficient range. In this club though most cars are making good HP so that would throw off the calculations.

I would love to see a data log of a before and after the gear installation to see how the car is running. To measure by tank there are a lot of variables. I have had my car running in the 27 all the way down to 21 on highway depending how I am driving

**1ViciousGSX** · 10-01-2006

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Originally Posted by ecoli

Most shops don't want to work on a car that someone already started working on and aren't going to offer a discount when a car comes in half torn apart.

We don't like doing it either. It becomes the "who is responsible for what" argument.

ExTREME · 10-01-2006

I hear ya. But damn my working enviroment blows. Unfinished garage with soil for a floor.. I dont know, You guys are making me want to drop it myself now. I haven't a clue on how to get the front axles out of the transmission..(?)

I just got it all back on the ground ready to roll onto a truck and now I'm about to go tear it all apart and try to pull it out again.. Wheres the DSM transmission removal for dummies book when you need it?

What I've done;

Raise on stands, took front wheels off, took out pass. side inner fender/fender, disconnected Speed gear, disconnected wiring from trans, removed batt./box, removed intake piping, removed shift cables, trans-to-block bolts, I think I got everything but the DS and the front axles, thats where I'm stuck, I havent a clue on that nor have ever done that before. I am willing to learn but damn.. None of my buddys ever did this extensive of work so getting help is hard.

Heres what I think I have left to do from where I left off before I put the wheels back on;

Support engine, support trans, disconnect DS, disconnect l/r front axles(?), removed trans mounts (1 ?), then drop it and put the new one in? The new trans aint here yet so I got time but cheese n' rice brothers im confused..

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 10-01-2006

What year is the car? You don't have to support the engine if it's a 1G.

ExTREME · 10-01-2006

Sorry, it is a 1g. 93tsi.

I forgot to add I also took out the exhaust.

95talonracer · 10-04-2006

Tested my new 5th gear at 70MPH today and it revs ay 2650 even. Alot nicer drive at that speed then before.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 10-05-2006

Are you AWD?

**Goat Blower** · 10-05-2006

That's quite a drop if it's AWD.

niterydr · 10-05-2006

My advice is no good, please delete.

95talonracer · 10-05-2006

No it is fwd but same results for awd according to tre. This gear is awsome. It just coasts now instead of wining out. Well i guess it isnt that dramatic but still. For 150 it is all worth is on everything.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 10-05-2006

FWDs are geared longer than AWDs to begin with. I am at almost 4000RPMs if I try to cruise at 80mph.

95talonracer · 03-28-2007

I have had this TRE tranny in now and put over 1000 miles on it. It is great so far and the 5th gear seams to help quite a bit being that it revs out less on the road just driving along.

Has anyone else gone this route as well yet?