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Old 09-27-2006   #1
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?

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You could always buy the cast GReddy (or maybe it was Apexi) endtanks and custom fabricate a 1G setup around them.
http://www.greddy.com/products/displ...SubCategory=21
The Greddy endtanks do looks very nice however, without seeing some CFD maps, I do not believe that they can compete with the DV/DT endtanks.
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We already did this once for the 3s.
Did you run any CFD simulations on your endtanks?

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Intercooler endtank design plays a VERY IMPORTANT roll in the cooling efficency and flow of your intercooler system.
http://www.dvdtfab.com/intercoolertestlab.pdf

On a side note, the textbook that Albert got many of his images out of for that report was written by a group of Iowa State professors.

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I agree, but I am also pretty sure that they would sell you the endtanks if you really wanted. I dont think it would be too hard to make them fit on a smaller(width) core and put it in a 1g.
When I get the cash, I am going to approach Albert about prototyping a kit for my Laser.
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?

Wow Jakey, that man really did his research and it definitely shows in his design. I wonder how come the other big competitors arent taking after his examples? I am sure it costs more but if the product is that much better it could easily be gained back.

BTW, what do Iowans know

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I wonder how come the other big competitors arent taking after his examples? I am sure it costs more but if the product is that much better it could easily be gained back.
90% of the DSM'ers have the Toonerz mentality of believing that everything on eBay and billybuttfuckintercoolers.com is God's gift to the forced induction world. Like Swanny said, it's not worth a company to invest money into.

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BTW, what do Iowans know
You'd be surprised.

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Mechanics of materials is easy.
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90% of the DSM'ers have the Toonerz mentality of believing that everything on eBay and billybuttfuckintercoolers.com is God's gift to the forced induction world. Like Swanny said, it's not worth a company to invest money into.
Exactly, 95% of DSMers are not willing to pay for a quality product. They want the cheapest that that will "work" made by some guy in his mom's garage. Companies are much wiser to invest those R&D dollars into higher level cars.
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Exactly, 95% of DSMers are not willing to pay for a quality product. They want the cheapest that that will "work" made by some guy in his mom's garage. Companies are much wiser to invest those R&D dollars into higher level cars.
And we are .

Not saying we don't invest time into dsm's. We've invested hundreds of hours of research and development into the dsm's. Minus a few specialized, yet to be announced area's, we are pretty much done with R&D on that platform.
Now Evo's, WRX's, 350z's, C6 vettes, thats a different story.
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Wow Jakey, that man really did his research and it definitely shows in his design. I wonder how come the other big competitors arent taking after his examples? I am sure it costs more but if the product is that much better it could easily be gained back.

BTW, what do Iowans know

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Sandcasting and investment casting isn't that expensive and is actually a much cheaper solution compared to forming endtanks for production items.
If we came up with a manifold kit for a platform we'd end up having it cast.
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Sandcasting and investment casting isn't that expensive and is actually a much cheaper solution compared to forming endtanks for production items.
If we came up with a manifold kit for a platform we'd end up having it cast.
Yes, but making it out of welded sheet alum is probably the cheapest yet, it shows in the cheap kits that are out there.
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Yes, but making it out of welded sheet alum is probably the cheapest yet, it shows in the cheap kits that are out there.
Cheap for 1 or 2, but when you start mass producing something that has curves....
Yeah sandcasting is the way to go.
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