09-27-2006
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Asshat King
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by S2kracka
You could always buy the cast GReddy (or maybe it was Apexi) endtanks and custom fabricate a 1G setup around them.
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http://www.greddy.com/products/displ...SubCategory=21
The Greddy endtanks do looks very nice however, without seeing some CFD maps, I do not believe that they can compete with the DV/DT endtanks.
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Originally Posted by niterydr
We already did this once for the 3s.
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Did you run any CFD simulations on your endtanks?
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Originally Posted by niterydr
Intercooler endtank design plays a VERY IMPORTANT roll in the cooling efficency and flow of your intercooler system.
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http://www.dvdtfab.com/intercoolertestlab.pdf
On a side note, the textbook that Albert got many of his images out of for that report was written by a group of Iowa State professors.
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Originally Posted by tim
I agree, but I am also pretty sure that they would sell you the endtanks if you really wanted. I dont think it would be too hard to make them fit on a smaller(width) core and put it in a 1g.
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When I get the cash, I am going to approach Albert about prototyping a kit for my Laser.
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09-27-2006
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Mondovi, Wi
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
Wow Jakey, that man really did his research and it definitely shows in his design. I wonder how come the other big competitors arent taking after his examples? I am sure it costs more but if the product is that much better it could easily be gained back.
BTW, what do Iowans know
Ya want to do my stress/strain homework for me?
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09-27-2006
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Asshat King
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by tim
I wonder how come the other big competitors arent taking after his examples? I am sure it costs more but if the product is that much better it could easily be gained back.
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90% of the DSM'ers have the Toonerz mentality of believing that everything on eBay and billybuttfuckintercoolers.com is God's gift to the forced induction world. Like Swanny said, it's not worth a company to invest money into.
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Originally Posted by tim
BTW, what do Iowans know 
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You'd be surprised.
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Originally Posted by tim
Ya want to do my stress/strain homework for me?
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Mechanics of materials is easy. 
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09-27-2006
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Jakey
90% of the DSM'ers have the Toonerz mentality of believing that everything on eBay and billybuttfuckintercoolers.com is God's gift to the forced induction world. Like Swanny said, it's not worth a company to invest money into.
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Exactly, 95% of DSMers are not willing to pay for a quality product. They want the cheapest that that will "work" made by some guy in his mom's garage. Companies are much wiser to invest those R&D dollars into higher level cars.
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I agree with Kracka.
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09-28-2006
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back in the saddle again
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by S2kracka
Exactly, 95% of DSMers are not willing to pay for a quality product. They want the cheapest that that will "work" made by some guy in his mom's garage. Companies are much wiser to invest those R&D dollars into higher level cars.
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And we are  .
Not saying we don't invest time into dsm's. We've invested hundreds of hours of research and development into the dsm's. Minus a few specialized, yet to be announced area's, we are pretty much done with R&D on that platform.
Now Evo's, WRX's, 350z's, C6 vettes, thats a different story.
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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09-28-2006
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back in the saddle again
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by tim
Wow Jakey, that man really did his research and it definitely shows in his design. I wonder how come the other big competitors arent taking after his examples? I am sure it costs more but if the product is that much better it could easily be gained back.
BTW, what do Iowans know
Ya want to do my stress/strain homework for me?
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Sandcasting and investment casting isn't that expensive and is actually a much cheaper solution compared to forming endtanks for production items.
If we came up with a manifold kit for a platform we'd end up having it cast.
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09-28-2006
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by niterydr
Sandcasting and investment casting isn't that expensive and is actually a much cheaper solution compared to forming endtanks for production items.
If we came up with a manifold kit for a platform we'd end up having it cast.
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Yes, but making it out of welded sheet alum is probably the cheapest yet, it shows in the cheap kits that are out there.
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09-28-2006
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back in the saddle again
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Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by tim
Yes, but making it out of welded sheet alum is probably the cheapest yet, it shows in the cheap kits that are out there.
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Cheap for 1 or 2, but when you start mass producing something that has curves....
Yeah sandcasting is the way to go.
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