The 3S Gauntlet has been laid - Page 2

92EvilTalon · 11-02-2006

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Originally Posted by DoughtCom

Yeah once 3S' get cheaper and cheaper I think the aftermarket will get larger. That's the main reason Honda and DSM's are insane with aftermarket parts. You're not making a huge car payment so you can afford to mod.

I totaly agree with this statment. I respect the 3S guys alot. I mean wow to take a yaht and put that in the 9's is great. I bet if Swanny could hook up he be close. Or even there. We don't know what that Stealth can do with a clean run.

But I think the reason why the Evo's are so quick to get in the low times...is the Mivecc they have on the 4g.... Unless they are not running that. I know the FTO's have it.

Super Bleeder!! · 11-02-2006

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Originally Posted by 92EvilTalon

But I think the reason why the Evo's are so quick to get in the low times...is the Mivecc they have on the 4g.... Unless they are not running that. I know the FTO's have it.

yea, thats it *rolleyes*

92EvilTalon · 11-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!

yea, thats it *rolleyes*

What am I wrong. If so please tell....

tim · 11-03-2006

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Originally Posted by 92EvilTalon

But I think the reason why the Evo's are so quick to get in the low times...is the Mivecc they have on the 4g.... Unless they are not running that. I know the FTO's have it.

LOL haha. Go look around on the EVO forums and notice that a lot of the EVO owners go out and buy a car, then drop it off at Buschur or AMS, then write a huge check and make them promise that they will be the new dyno queen on the internet. After they are praised on the net they find a good driver and have them rocket their car into the 9s.

Now, not all EVO owners are this way but the ones that are the fastest, in most cases, are either business owners(AMS, Buschur, etc) or they are rich guys on the coast that have nothing better to do with their money.

Props to another 3/S in the 9s, hopefully next season we can have a local in the running. It obviously takes a lot of enginuity(sp?) to get a land barge like that to trap that low of a time.

92EvilTalon · 11-03-2006

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Originally Posted by tim

LOL haha. Go look around on the EVO forums and notice that a lot of the EVO owners go out and buy a car, then drop it off at Buschur or AMS, then write a huge check and make them promise that they will be the new dyno queen on the internet. After they are praised on the net they find a good driver and have them rocket their car into the 9s.

What I like about Buschur is.... They made a deal with Medina Mitsubishi to make a package deal. Basicly you get either a 330hp Evo 8 or a 350hp Evo 8. And have the 330 or 350 Buschur logo stamped on your car. The best part is...they still honor your warrenty too. So if something breaks take it back to Medina Mitsu and get it fixed. Yes it cost more but eh...that was a great deal for Buschur. I do not know if AMS did the same deal with there local Mitsubishi Dealer. I don't know if Medina still offers that deal. I bet they do but eh.

And I am sorry for thinking that the Evo8 guys have the MIVEC system on there 9 second cars. My misstake.

Super Bleeder!! · 11-02-2006

you're honestly going to say that evo's (evo 9s to be exact) are fast because they have the ability to alter their cam timing?

92EvilTalon · 11-02-2006

No I did not say that mostly...I was talking about it. The Evo's are fast because of the aftermarket base over here and back in Japan. Besides the 4g63 is a very nice engine. Its not great or godly but nice. But then again...I don't know the real facts on why they took a short time to get in the low times.

Super Bleeder!! · 11-02-2006

How are you and john even related? IT boggles my MIND!

niterydr · 11-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!

How are you and john even related? IT boggles my MIND!

LMAO!!!

My nomination for post of the year.

AJ · 11-02-2006

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Originally Posted by niterydr

LMAO!!!

My nomination for post of the year.

x2

Swifty1638 · 11-02-2006

I dunno..the 4g63 is voted in the top 10 motors of all time, next to the 2jz, and the rb26..

-A. Swift

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 11-02-2006

The 4G63 is a great motor hands down.

Most of the fast Evos do not have MIVEC. MIVEC just came out with the 9s, and there weren't even any aftermarket cams available for it until just very recently.

The 3s isn't that expensive, so I don't that has held it back at all. The MKIV Supra isn't cheap. The motor and drivetrain have held it back. It requires more work to get farther, which Josh has been doing.

niterydr · 11-02-2006

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Originally Posted by ecoli

The 4G63 is a great motor hands down.

Most of the fast Evos do not have MIVEC. MIVEC just came out with the 9s, and there weren't even any aftermarket cams available for it until just very recently.

The 3s isn't that expensive, so I don't that has held it back at all. The MKIV Supra isn't cheap. The motor and drivetrain have held it back. It requires more work to get farther, which Josh has been doing.

The weight is a huge issue, so are some major drivetrain issues. Things are getting better for the market, only time will tell where it walls again.

Super Bleeder!! · 11-02-2006

Yea, cause they were half the price!

**Kracka** · 11-02-2006

About half the car too, stock for stock the 3/S is in a whole different league.

Super Bleeder!! · 11-02-2006

Thats great.

**Kracka** · 11-02-2006

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!

Thats great.

Sorry for disagreeing with you...

Different people bought 3/S's for different reasons than those who bought DSM's; both are good cars in their own regard. I guess I really don't understand what DSMers have against the 3/S's. Every car has its strong points and there isn't a single car out there that doesn't have its weaknesses too.

A//// Guy · 11-02-2006

I lika a you. Waa waa wee waa!

Super Bleeder!! · 11-03-2006

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I lika a you. Waa waa wee waa!

jagshemash

Black97civic · 11-03-2006

Why all the hate, I guess we could all just say that mitsus in general are crap because domestics have been running faster than them for a long time, Who cares.

There are more fast DSM's than 3/S's, there is a bigger aftermarket for DSM's, coincidence?? Also, DSM's are lighter, and can make as much power as a 3/S, both have all wheel drive, show me why the 3/S's should be a better drag car. Obviously 3/S's weren't designed specifically for the 1/4 mile, considering they are geared to do about a million mph, so who cares, hate all day long, but until you are running 4's like john force or someone your still a fag with a slow car.