Swifty's never-ending project thread!

[awd-drifter]

shit happens to the best of us. hope it can make it this saturday man.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by Swifty1638

drilled out 3 of the 4 rivets, coppersprayed all 4 parts

Why? I'd be willing to bet that has the potential to cause more issues than prevent any.

[scheides]

Or was it a new gasket that may have gotten mashed while dropping the head down? I had the same thing happen when I put my L19's on, the washers are so damn thick!

[Swifty1638]

I heard that it's worked for others in the past to hold higher cylinder pressure, and at the time I was NOT keen on dropping 200 fricken' dollars on a damn gasket. But, whatever. I am looking at my options..I have A1's. I guess it's either a Mitsu MLS or a felpro. But, it's a matter of cost difference vs. holding strength. Pros and Cons for each, and it seems everyone is all having different luck.

[Swifty1638]

I did mash it. For all I know it could also have been damaged sitting in the bottom drawer of my toolbox, with all the other shit I've tossed onto it..air tools, brake cleaner sprayer thing, scan tool, etc. Who knows. It's dumb, but in a way, I kinda wanna time how long it takes to swap the HG. Just not excited about the cost of a new hg, oil, coolant, etc.

[A//// Guy]

You told me you were reusing your old one and spraying it up with copper spray. Did you mention anywhere in this thread that you got a new one? Not that I can remember....

[scheides]

Originally Posted by Swifty1638

For all I know it could also have been damaged sitting in the bottom drawer of my toolbox, with all the other shit I've tossed onto it..air tools, brake cleaner sprayer thing, scan tool, etc.

Sorry swifty, you've wholeheartedly deserved this:



I've got an old cracked act 2600 PP and my stock evo disc laying around, you wanna toss them in there while you're at it?

[santa]

Mitsu metal and be done with it ( I've had one in my car for over a year at 530awhp, and never pushed any coolant). Cost is like $100. Cometic head gaskets SUCK!

[Swifty1638]

Peter, I said I was THINKING. Then I remembered I had bought 2 because I thought the first time around It was the wrong bore size/gasket..turns out it was right, and I used that one..that was back with the scm61. I found this one, and thought..hmm..how could I make it better? I tried this idea, it must not have worked. Plain and simple.

Scheides, I don't even wanna know how many times you failed..how many HG's you gone through? I know your car needs a hg right now!

[Swifty1638]

The thing that I ponder..is why is everyone on this felpro permatorque gasket bandwagon? Yea, it's a good gasket..good for it. What was everyone using BEFORE this came out? eh? And, did it not work for all the other DSMers out there for MANY MANY years? I guess marketing is really that powerful..

[Kracka]

Stock or Mitsu MLS.

[santa]

Originally Posted by Swifty1638

The thing that I ponder..is why is everyone on this felpro permatorque gasket bandwagon? Yea, it's a good gasket..good for it. What was everyone using BEFORE this came out? eh? And, did it not work for all the other DSMers out there for MANY MANY years? I guess marketing is really that powerful..

The permatorque gasket is a multi layer gasket just like the mitsu metal's but, mitsu metal's weren't made for 2.4lt guys. I had a commetic HP in my car (when I had my 2.4) with a 61 on it and blew the shit out of the gasket many time's. The other reason why thing's are so much better now are the head stud's are holding that head down much better then the standard old arp's ever did!

[scheides]

Originally Posted by Swifty1638

Scheides, I don't even wanna know how many times you failed..how many HG's you gone through? I know your car needs a hg right now!

My car will never see a HG ever again

But, when the head came off, I always used a NEW one, and was careful not to damage it

[Swifty1638]

True, making me wonder..maybe I'll rock a mitsu MLS, and swap that bitch out..later?

[Swifty1638]

Scheides, I didn't think I could damage it by having it in the bottom of a drawer on my toolbox (literally bottom..I could show you the shit I found when I cleaned it out!). I am not saying that it was or wasn't the reason..could also been what I did to it with the washer incident. Who knows. All I know is it's time for a new one.

[santa]

Originally Posted by Swifty1638

True, making me wonder..maybe I'll rock a mitsu MLS, and swap that bitch out..later?

swap what out later?

ps make sure its not your water pump like you said.

[scheides]

+1 on the water pump, unless you didn't touch that? Still.

+2 or 3 on Mitsu MLS gasket. They're like $60.

[Swifty1638]

Swap out the gasket for another, un beaten, unsprayed gasket.

I am still curious on that. I guess if it isn't fixed with a hg, I'll do the water pump gasket..I know I should sometime do the o-ring on the water pipe as it's been a long time since it was replaced, and over winter when it's cold, it leaks. Seems to be fine now though. If it ain't broke..why fix it?

[Swifty1638]

look up a mitus mls gasket cost..it's gone up. much more. It sucks.

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by santa

Mitsu metal and be done with it ( I've had one in my car for over a year at 530awhp, and never pushed any coolant). Cost is like $100. Cometic head gaskets SUCK!

Whats wrong with the permatorque's? I have yet to hear of one failing yet. (Except on Rau's car.)