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X Factor · 01-19-2008

Thanks man.

Kevin 1G Drummer · 01-20-2008

Haha My friends and I always stop at that Marathon when we ride through Stillwater. The car looks pretty sweet!

X Factor · 01-20-2008

It's like the Stillwater gas station. Because it's the only one downtown

X Factor · 01-20-2008

Couple new pics on my flickr too, don't want to keep spamming the thread with them, click the linky if you wanna see more pics.

http://flickr.com/photos/8847832@N07/

Thanks for all the feedback btw guys, you all rock.

123abc · 01-20-2008

Your car looks pretty sick and has some decent performance. Great job so far on it.

X Factor · 01-20-2008

Going for a good mix of both.

I'm hoping to push a bit higher than 250 this spring.

**scheides** · 01-20-2008

Sexy man, loving the in-dash deck, very slick! Bawlah!

X Factor · 01-22-2008

Fuuuuuuck me.... As I had mentioned before, RIPP's presence on the C4G forum is much stronger, and they are seemingly getting more and more willing to push our platform, which is making me happy, since other than RIPP we have hardly any support.

Anyway... recent post from RIPP:

"We've done an extensive amount of stock and then mod's testing:

Stock 4TH Gen:
217whp GT

RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A NO BRAT
YouTube - RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A NO BRAT
In this video you will see a N/A 4th Gen Eclipse GT V6 Automatic trans, being DYNO tested. It will Produce 238whp, running a cold air kit and an axle back exhaust system and NO BRAT.

RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A WITH-BRAT
YouTube - RIPPMODS 4TH GEN Eclipse N/A WITH-BRAT
In this video you will see a N/A 4th Gen Eclipse GT V6 Automatic trans, being DYNO tested. It will Produce 245whp (an additional 7whp), running a cold air kit and an axle back exhaust system and the addition of a RIPP-BRAT BOX.

RIPPMODS Long tube header test 276whp RIPP Dyno NO BRAT
YouTube - RIPPMODS Long tube header test 276whp RIPP Dyno
RIPPMODS tests its new long tube header for the 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse V6 producing 276whp using a 2.25 inch exhaust and intake on our in house Dyno Dynamics Dyno.

RIPPMODS 286whp 4thGen Eclipse Header test 3in exhaust
YouTube - RIPPMODS 286whp 4thGen Eclipse Header test 3in exhaust
RIPPMODS performs a test with its new Long Tube header with a 3in custom exhaust installed. 288whp was easily achieved at operating temp no BRAT.

TECH"

Between my Intake, Headers, and cat-back Exhaust... i've gained about exactly 20whp. Considering the money i've spend, I guess it's not that bad, but the headers were a BITCH to get in, ask Mark and his Dad, and compared to the numbers RIPP is talking about here, i'm a feel like I made a big mistake by taking the cheaper route with the short tube headers vs RIPP's long tube.

I'm thinking about selling my headers and upgrading... 275whp un-tuned off just re-doing my exhaust sounds pretty tempting, that would make 300whp within reach without having to go boost.

Also, they run dyno dynamics.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 01-22-2008

Wow, the gains from the long tubes is a lot.

The gain differences between the long tube and short tube might not actually be that much, if nothing else is restricting them. Has anyone tested the shorties? We have done swaps from shorties to long tubes on NA 300whp Mustangs and there haven't been power gains on the dyno. Maybe there would be real gains on a more crazy, bigger displacement, higher power NA build.

X Factor · 01-22-2008

Also, I think this is part of the reason their supercharger kit seemed to make such an amazing amount of power to me. Their headers are making much more power than the ~20whp (comparable to mine) that I thought they made, and more like 40-50whp. (between intake exhaust and the headers)

So their exhaust system alone, tuned, gets you relatively close to 300, the s/c kit will then get you the next ~115whp to get to about 400, but I think if I could get close to ~300 N/A that I would probably prefer that, and I could run a small wet shot if I really wanted any more power.

X Factor · 01-22-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli

Wow, the gains from the long tubes is a lot.

The gain differences between the long tube and short tube might not actually be that much, if nothing else is restricting them. Has anyone tested the shorties? We have done swaps from shorties to long tubes on NA 300whp Mustangs and there haven't been power gains on the dyno. Maybe there would be real gains on a more crazy, bigger displacement, higher power NA build.

Well the shorties are a different make, they are from RRE.

Also they are talking cold air, and i'm in short ram right now, which I also recently found out is INSANELY hot compared to cold air, so that's a couple ponies for sure. basically here is the exact different between my car and theirs.

Their 276whp dyno'd GT: Cold air intake, RIPP long tube headers, Custom 2.25 inch exhaust (probably no cats, but with a high flow reso and muffler, but i'm not sure)

My setup: Short ram intake, Short tube headers, Stock exhaust from headers to cat (stock cat still in place), cat-back magnaflow exhaust (basically very minimal gains, a couple if anything at all, all I replaced was stock resonator and muffler)

I dyno'd last fall with you guys at DB at 235-236 on all 3 pulls.

I'm so stressin...

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 01-22-2008

Anyone one else getting gains like they are posting?

X Factor · 01-22-2008

Like nobody has the RIPP long tubes cause they are so expensive. 1000 bucks. And nobody has really been posting dynos with them so nobody has any reason to be the first to dive in.

I've seen 1 guy claim he has them and never seen a dyno sheet and he posts like once a month.

I'm also starting to wonder if I need to have something checked to see if i'm losing power somewhere other than just not getting what I expected out of what i've done so far.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 01-22-2008

I mean to go from 217whp to 288whp with IHE, seems like too much on an NA car, unless the stock stuff is horrible. Those are better than NSX numbers. What is the factory HP rating at the motor?

X Factor · 01-22-2008

263chp.

I think that is also tuned, for the 288 number. Also might be a manual vs the 217 being an auto.

So 217 being totally stock auto trans.

288 Intake, long tube headers, header back exhaust, tuned (we run pig rich, in case you don't remember my dyno from fall), manual trans.

Can probably safely say 5-10hp is attributed to lose in the transmission between auto and manual.

**Kracka** · 01-22-2008

I think you're making very good power considering your mods. A CAI won't show a lot of gain on the dyno since your hood is open, the real gains to that will be noticeable on the streets.

X Factor · 01-22-2008

Still though... i'm at 236 vs stock 217.

RIPP is advertising 288 (realistically like 275 for me, being an automatic, right?)

Kevin 1G Drummer · 01-22-2008

The fact that their cars aren't running cats and your car is, is possibly why you aren't seeing the kind of gains they're claiming.

**Kracka** · 01-22-2008

Picking up 19 whp on a DD dyno for doing N/A I/H/E w/stock cats is not bad at all. Your factory exhaust was well designed as was the intake with that little WOT flapper door. Was your car 217 whp stock? If not, its tough to compare going from one dyno to another even if they are both DD.

X Factor · 01-22-2008

I was thinking that as well... but would that really account for the huge amount of difference? I don't know at all how much a cat makes a difference, but it would have to be like 10whp to even make the difference that I am lacking.

But maybe it would? I dunno... haha.