SERIOUS PROBLEM (Jake Vogel/TKR Mark)

[Cammaxon]

I am having Jake Vogel install my transmission,

I had TKR Mark build the inside from a TRE stage 2, 1g and the EVO 3 3rd and 4th gears with a 4spider diff from Speedfreak (MO).

before putting the transmission in Jake called me and said it wouldn't shift into 5th or reverse

so i went to his shop
I called mark he told me to have jake open the trans, thinking maybe jake dropped it.

Inside of the trans:

The shift fork for 5th was too small and didnt line up right with the pin on the rail, it was completely different than my 2g shift fork. some of the bearing were loose, it was a little dirty inside the trans, there was a chip on one of the teeth and it was all pressed together too hard forcing it into the housing...

THE CENTER DIFF was not a 4 spider....
I opened the center diff to find a regular 2 spider.

IDK who to trust, what's going on or what to do. Mark loaded the trans into my car, jake took it out.

The problem i'm faced with:
Jake had the transmission for 3 weeks before getting around to installing it, because other costumers cars kept coming first or he had family issues.
He's also converting his 2g to awd and getting a built trans.

How do i know if mark put the evo gears in, and if he put the 4 spider in?

Did Mo actually give mark a 4 spider?

Why can't you just trust people these days?

[Powers]

thats pretty bad man. so what did jake say when it was opened up?

[Matt D.]

I thought everyone knew better than to let Jake Vogel touch their cars.

Sorry, but this is one can of worms I'm staying away from.

[goodhart]

http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16632&highlight=jake+vogel

[Halon]

Momin is a complete stand-up guy, and I hope his name doesn't get drug into this any further.

As for the rest of the situation, yup sounds like a can of worms. It's really too bad that this happened, and was a purely local ordeal. Sorry to hear this happened to you :(

[Alpha D]

I saw some of the assembly of the tranny. It was interesting listening to him explaining what he was doing. I never knew evo 3 gears fitt in a dsm transmission ect nice lecture session.

[Speedfreak]

Cam(OP) and I have been texting about this. And I do not want to get drug into this, but he asked me to post up that I did indeed drop off a 4 spider diff.. I did. I do not intend to point fingers as I do not know anything about what was done after I dropped off the center diff, but mistakes happen, and maybe the center diff is around somewhere?

[Cammaxon]

I think mark should check his work area. I'm not saying this was intentional. I know the tre transmission had a 2spider in it, maybe he ACCIDENTLY put that one in during the install, they look similar on the outside.

Mark gave the transmission back to me with sealed with an orange gasket and i watched jake open it up. If jake was going to go through the trouble of intentionally swapping parts than i would hope he'd be smart enough to make it work long enough for me to drive it and break it but the 1g 5th/R shift fork didn't work in the 2g housing. it's a lot smaller and the pins dont line up.

[sleepydsm]

Why can't you trust anyone? Instead of taking the cheap route, and potential headaches, and just go with a proven, trusted company. I have dealt with John Shephard many times, standup guy and standup company. Get something that is gonna last, be done right the first time, and be done with it. If you bitch about money, then just sell the car. Or get a loan. W/e. Do it right the first time. DSMs, when done right, are not cheap to own. Shit breaks, $2500 trannys are disposable. If that upsets your stomach, get out now.

[Cammaxon]

Some one just slipped up on the 4 spider thats all. and where do u think i got the evo gears... shep.

Mark checked the other diff at his house, it's also a 2 spider. He said the one that i have in there is the one from Mo

Mo had to pull the diff from a car maybe he pulled the wrong one?

Why can't you trust anyone? Instead of taking the cheap route, and potential headaches, and just go with a proven, trusted company. I have dealt with John Shephard many times, standup guy and standup company. Get something that is gonna last, be done right the first time, and be done with it. If you bitch about money, then just sell the car. Or get a loan. W/e. Do it right the first time. DSMs, when done right, are not cheap to own. Shit breaks, $2500 trannys are disposable. If that upsets your stomach, get out now.