SERIOUS PROBLEM (Jake Vogel/TKR Mark)

[turbotalon1g]

I think it is good he publicized his ordeal, could of been a little better but people will be a little bit more cautious of who they deal with.

Maybe you can stop beating around the bush and just post who are you trying to defend here or whose side you are on.

Suby's sound like broken ass tractors no matter how nice they are inside and out. I do want a newer legacy though they are nice.

[Speedfreak]

Well, not sure how I did it.. but I gave him the wrong diff. Just opened up the other tranny and there it is. :( I sincerely apologize to Cam for that mix up.

I didn't even think twice about that specific tranny having the 4 spider in it. Didn't even look at the other tranny, just knew where it was.. Guess I didn't.

At this point, I believe he is going to pick it up tomorrow, hand me my old one, and I will hopefully be out of this saga.

[scheides]

Mark doesn't want to give me a refund. he said:

"It shifted in all gears when i checked if before meeting you, this shit has gotten out of hand i did you a favor on doing it and then you gave it to a known thief"


FWIW Vogul had a pretty aweful rep for a while and I think there was a thread linked already about that. He did spend some time cleaning up his image but mostly has just disappeared for a year or so now. If you actually want to leave negative review for someone then out with it, otherwise you just kinda keep beating around the bush.

I think though that you are making progress, nice of Mo to confirm on teh diff and then its just a matter of getting the trans back together with the right parts. Keep going.

[twack]

no offense cam but you dont know anything about rebuilding a trans, what good is it to watch mark reassemble it

[polishmafia]

Well, not sure how I did it.. but I gave him the wrong diff. Just opened up the other tranny and there it is. :( I sincerely apologize to Cam for that mix up.

I didn't even think twice about that specific tranny having the 4 spider in it. Didn't even look at the other tranny, just knew where it was.. Guess I didn't.

At this point, I believe he is going to pick it up tomorrow, hand me my old one, and I will hopefully be out of this saga.

So you gave him the wrong diff? Thats what caused all this?

[Speedfreak]

So you gave him the wrong diff? Thats what caused all this?

Um no. Wrong diff, yes, but did it "cause all this".. No. All it did was not have the power handling capability of the one he should have received. His issues are with the build quality/other wrong parts.

[Cammaxon]

Ok travis you're right i actually dont know much about it and i'm sure it wont make any difference.

but i will say
MO (Speedfreak)

Is, as every one else has already stated... a goodguy!

he admitted his mistake and went out of his way to make it right so for that i thank him. Maybe it's a goood thing mark put the wrong shift fork in so we found this now, before i drove it for a couple years. But i don't know if the 4spider is going to work because it doesn't have the ridges in the gears on the lower housing like in this pic....

http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/what-gear-set-do-you-have

so now what?

[Pushit2.0]

From the looks of it you will need the early intermediate shaft, the down side is the older intermediate shaft will not work with the Evo 3 3rd and 4th gears.

~John

[goodhart]

Mo +10 on this deal.

Bad guy threads on both other parties:

Where's Jake? (http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16632&highlight=vogel)

Attempt to make things right (http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18706&page=3&highlight=vogel)

TkrPerformance (http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27380)

[turbotalon1g]

I have a bunch of trans parts out of a 92 if you are interested, also that galant trans will be able to supply random parts you need.