SERIOUS PROBLEM (Jake Vogel/TKR Mark)

[EclipseGST]

Mo... Found some pictures Cameron took last night:

http://vogelperformance.com/cameron/8.jpg
http://vogelperformance.com/cameron/9.jpg

[Speedfreak]

Yeah, he sent me those pics. Unfortunately there is nothing there that triggers if that is the same one I gave or not. I was hoping there would be some chipped teeth or something I could point to to say it isn't the same one, but it just looks like a center diff..

[scheides]

Thank you to everyone involved for keeping this thread above the belt. When parts come from 3-4-5 different people it becomes a mess very quickly. Please keep things on the up-and-up!

[EclipseGST]

Video of end play from the center diff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ALW-U3GQDc

[GsXtUrBo98]

Is everyone sure that it was shimmed correctly? If its the same one that came out it would be fine to go back in 99% of the time. But from another tranny it would have to be shimmed to spec.

[STI312]

STI FTW!!!!!!!! =)

[4g63tcrazy]

I had an issue with Mark recently also. He sold my buddy his "Evo 3" head and intake manifold to match it. After getting everything assembled and ready to start the car, I double checked to make sure everything spun freely and I could not get the cams to spin. I tried everything from swapping cams to bleeding the lifters and I also had other people come over to figure the issue out. It ends up he mixed up the cam caps and he said he would not refund the money since I had the head for a couple of weeks and I could have messed it up. I asked him to check other heads he had laying around but he simply just told me he didn't mix them up. This meant all the new gaskets, time, fluids and everything had to be bought again and Mark wouldn't own up to his mistake. He did offer to take everything and swap it into another head, but from my experience you don't just slap parts into other heads. Now prior to this I had nothing but good transactions with him and went to him for a lot of parts. But I felt this was just a slap in the face and I will NEVER be dealing with him again.

OP good luck getting this resolved. I hope you figure it all out. I had to share my recent experience with him as I feel it's somewhat relevant.

[Cammaxon]

STI FTW!!!!!!!! =)

had one.... went dsm FTW

[Cammaxon]

Is everyone sure that it was shimmed correctly? If its the same one that came out it would be fine to go back in 99% of the time. But from another tranny it would have to be shimmed to spec.

not sure at all, and now i really dk how to know if it will be?

[Pushit2.0]

Video of end play from the center diff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ALW-U3GQDc

Are you sure the transaxle case adapter is still tight up to the transaxle case? I have had the transaxle case adapter break free of the transaxle case when taking the input shaft and intermediate shaft lock nuts off.

It the video the transaxle case adapter looks like its in contact with 5th gear. For how loose that is in the video there would have to be no shim, worn/bad bearings, if the two housing are tight.

And from what I recall its a difference in the 5th gear hub/slider from a early 1g to the late 1g and into the 2g they switched to use the cast iron 5th/rev shift fork. I am not sure but I would guess the 5th/rev shift rails are different also.

Any time I install a 4 spider center diff its easy to look inside to see all 4 spider gears.

Also at that point why not check the center diff end play per the factory manual and tell us, it was X off?

As for the Evo 3/4th gears check out this page, there is a lot of good DSM tranny info.
http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/tech-articles

You will notice the EVO 3 and 4 gears have 4 holes for tabs off the double synchro, it is easy to look in from the side of the gear set and see if there at tabs going down into the 3/4th gears. If they are not present its not an evo 3 or 4th gear.
http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/large-3-4-double-synchro-rings



~John