Shooting at Fort Hood, TX

[TheBlizzard]

The last name comment was a joke, obviously you didn't catch it. However you admit that not letting someone into the military because of their religion/beliefs is discrimination; that conservative outlook on the way our military and country should be run is why 13 people are dead right now and another 40+ are injured. Not to mention what happened on 9/11.

God for fucking bid if we discriminated against a Muslim and told him/her we don't want to take the risk of him/her killing a bunch of people down the road. If it never happened before I could see pulling the discrimination card, but considering the circumstances and past events who gives a fuck if someones feelings get hurt, at least people might not die because of it.

The whole reason they didn't call out this Hassan dude about his talks with a known terrorist is because they didn't want to look like they were discriminating or calling him out because of his religion, and LOOK WHERE THAT GOT THEM!

[Febo]

I dissagree with that. We are not desperate for soldiers. Every branch right now has a delayed entry program because there are so many recruits. The military is sending out troops to basic training every Monday. Just my .02 from an enlisted Marine.

Holy crap do I ever agree with this.

And man I cant even read this entire thread. It just turned into the typical racist load that seems to be prevelant on this board.

I know muslims in the military that have NO qualms with killing the terrorist and isurgant scum that are the cause of this war.

MUSLIM DOES NOT = TERRORIST you racist, ignorant effs.

If you wanted to go on that logic then

WHITE MAN = KKK, go hang some black people. Or hate on some Jews, because with your logic towards muslims its the same damn thing.

You all want to just PRETEND that white Christians Extremists arent JUST as bad as Muslim Extremists.

Times like these I'm glad to be a tolerant Agnostic. And by tolerant I mean towards religions, not racist ignorant BS.

[Halon]

This thread is aweful.

[TheBlizzard]

MUSLIM DOES NOT = TERRORIST you racist, ignorant effs.


Where did you read that? I re-read the whole thread and couldn't find where somebody said that all Muslims are Terrorist's? Unless somebody edited their post; if not it appears as if you are making shit up in order to attempt to make a point about something that was never said, which last time I checked is 'ignorant'.

Bottom line is this country just needs to re-think some of it's security measures when it comes to whom they let into the military and who they let into this country.

And Brandon you're right, this thread is aweful, it sucks this country has came to these kind of discussions. The worst isn't over by far though the way things are going.

Blizzard - Signing Off :bf_nonew:

[hellomynameis]

Where did you read that? I re-read the whole thread and couldn't find where somebody said that all Muslims are Terrorist's? Unless somebody edited their post; if not it appears as if you are making shit up in order to attempt to make a point about something that was never said, which last time I checked is 'ignorant'.

You're right, there is no direct quote. However, it is easily inferred from several comments. The idea of not allowing any Muslim into our armed forces solely because they are a Muslim and some Muslims are terrorists effectively groups them all together as terrorists.

What you, and others, seem to be failing to understand is that the actions of any subset of a group do not define the entire group and when you knowingly and willfully deny the entire group any of the rights they are given by being a citizen of the United States of America you are discriminating. It's disgusting to think that any of you would want to do this.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of profiling because it seems to work. Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. However, you can't strip search every Muslim person that goes through the airport, it's not the same thing.

[Kracka]

This thread is going no where. Everyone has their beliefs and its quite apparent nobody is changing their minds. I just hope there are no more deaths due to these terrorist muslims infiltrating our military and I think we can all agree to that.

[1ViciousGSX]

Interesting chain of events in this thread.

I don't remember anybody saying that all Muslims are terrorist anywhere in this thread?? But you can make of it anything you want.

Let me pose a question:
Since it has been "inferred" that we shouldn't allow Muslims into the military at this time because we are fighting Muslim based terrorist, would you have let die-hard Hitler & Nazi supporters into the U.S. Military during WWII? What about a Registered Communist Russian supporter during the cold war? This guy proclaimed his beliefs out in the open for all to see and nothing was done because of "race", "religion" and "political correctness". He wasn't just a Muslim fighting along side of the U.S Military, he was contacting members of al Qaeda in an effort to do something along the lines of what he did. The FBI knew it and did nothing about it.

The problem here is that this is the first war where an enemy's uniform is the same as their civilian dress and you can't just "spot" the enemy in a crowded room unless he's packing an AK47 in plain site.

Am I for discrimination? Hell NO!! But in a time of war (REMEMBER WE ARE AT WAR) we have to use common sense and take into account that a religious group has targeted innocent American civilians. This is the worst kind of war because it's not just one military against another where the soldiers know who they are fighting on the battle field. And a religion based war is the worst kind because of the radicals who bastardize their religion into something that justifies killing innocent civilians.

Blizzard, let me fix your statement here:
"However you admit that not letting someone into the military because of their religion/beliefs is discrimination; that LIBERAL outlook on the way our military and country should be run is why 13 people are dead right now and another 40+ are injured. Not to mention what happened on 9/11."

RLFebo:
Let me catch you posting anything like "you racist, ignorant effs" again and I will personally ban you from the site permanently! For now it will be a 1 week ban.

It's really a shame we can't have an open discussion as mature adults without somebody's panties getting all wadded up!!!

[1ViciousGSX]

this thread is going no where. Everyone has their beliefs and its quite apparent nobody is changing their minds. I just hope there are no more deaths due to these terrorist muslims infiltrating our military and i think we can all agree to that.

+1,000,000

[Kracka]

Am I for discrimination? Hell NO!! But in a time of war (REMEMBER WE ARE AT WAR) we have to use common sense and take into account that a religious group has targeted innocent American civilians.
People seem to forget this very simple fact since here most of us sit in our comfy protected lives worrying about protecting some terrorist's feelings while our fellow Americans are getting blown up and shot not only overseas but here on our own soil.

[A//// Guy]

I dont get why he would be banned for that? There is a lot of racist thoughts in this thread. Its not totally direct blows, but they are there.

I dont agree with the military not doing anything about this dude having ties with terrorism. That doesn't make any sense why they would just let it slide when they had proof he was tied to terrorist activity.

I have muslim friends as well, and Id be proud if they fought for the US. All you people saying muslims shouldnt be allowed to fight for this country, even though they are US citizens, need to get a clue.

Vicious- How does having muslims fighting for us even compare to Nazis fighting for the US back in WW2. That makes no sense at all. Nazisism isnt a religion, neither is communism. You cant compare a religion to political agenda and thought. Thats like saying if all nazis were Christian, we couldnt have any Christians fighting for the US in WW2...